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I'm looking for a ritual that shows distress.

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Hello, I have a question about a ritual.

Do you know a comprehensive ritual that shows what bad effects it has on you?
This information can be shown in your sleep or you can see it in another way.
I am looking for a ritual that shows bad energy, the cause of your unhappiness, your problems, I would be grateful if someone could answer me.
 

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This is done naturally just through seeing. Psychological and spiritual pain is as simple as physical pain: a man stabs your thigh, so your thigh has a knife shaped wound.

If you are unhappy, look at where that unhappiness is leaking out from. Be in the present moment and look at the details of it: everything that is now came from streams of karmic events, trace them back with your seeing.

I have no rituals or spells that can do the work for you, just that advice.
 

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This is done naturally just through seeing. Psychological and spiritual pain is as simple as physical pain: a man stabs your thigh, so your thigh has a knife shaped wound.

If you are unhappy, look at where that unhappiness is leaking out from. Be in the present moment and look at the details of it: everything that is now came from streams of karmic events, trace them back with your seeing.

I have no rituals or spells that can do the work for you, just that advice.
thank you, but that's not my case, I think you know what I mean, I wonder about the starting point of it all, but I wonder why after all these years the pain doesn't end, where a part of me remains, maybe that's why I suffer physically and spiritually
this problem may not have originated with me, but it affected me too
 

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thank you, but that's not my case, I think you know what I mean, I wonder about the starting point of it all, but I wonder why after all these years the pain doesn't end, where a part of me remains, maybe that's why I suffer physically and spiritually
this problem may not have originated with me, but it affected me too
It is a lengthy process, genuine spiritual recovery is hard, it took me hundreds of hours of meditation just to get an inkling of what to do.

If someone has a cure-all ritual I'll be eager to hear it. Def will watch this thread in case that happens 🦉
 

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ritual that shows what bad effects it has on yo

Maybe this can either put your mind at ease or show you the source of your problems:

 

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This would be a classic case for divination to find out what's really going on; I can't think of any ritual that could give you that information you need.

I remember once reading a rather facile Buddhist-inspired claim according to which our suffering mainly comes from thinking that we shouldn't suffer at all. While I find this statement hopelessly exaggerated, there might be some truth in it in your case. Yearning for some paradisiacal state where you feel full of positive energy, happy and problem-free is a somewhat unrealistic expectation, I'd say. You might be able to achieve some progress here, be successful there, improve in other respects, win a few battles only to encounter some new difficulties but there will be no instant salvation after which life will be happy and blissful ever after.
 

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Maybe this can either put your mind at ease or show you the source of your problems:

This would be a classic case for divination to find out what's really going on; I can't think of any ritual that could give you that information you need.

I remember once reading a rather facile Buddhist-inspired claim according to which our suffering mainly comes from thinking that we shouldn't suffer at all. While I find this statement hopelessly exaggerated, there might be some truth in it in your case. Yearning for some paradisiacal state where you feel full of positive energy, happy and problem-free is a somewhat unrealistic expectation, I'd say. You might be able to achieve some progress here, be successful there, improve in other respects, win a few battles only to encounter some new difficulties but there will be no instant salvation after which life will be happy and blissful ever after.
Actually, you didn't understand me very well, let me put it this way
For example, you are unhappy and you don't know why, you have become a confused, restless and aggressive person without realizing it, and the reason for this is that maybe it is a spell cast on you and you don't know it, someone says that yes, you have problems, he can see it, but you can't see it, you don't have his knowledge, you don't have his knowledge, and my desire is to go to this level of knowledge or to know these rituals.
I'm looking for a real ritual where I can find out exactly why everything happens.
 

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If I'm reading you correctly you don't need a ritual, you need divination. Do a reading or get one done. It should show what negative energies are currently affecting you, if any.
 

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If I'm reading you correctly you don't need a ritual, you need divination. Do a reading or get one done. It should show what negative energies are currently affecting you, if any.
I understand, but there are other methods, but I can't find the answer.
 

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Hello, I have a question about a ritual.

Do you know a comprehensive ritual that shows what bad effects it has on you?
This information can be shown in your sleep or you can see it in another way.
I am looking for a ritual that shows bad energy, the cause of your unhappiness, your problems, I would be grateful if someone could answer me.
This is exceptionally difficult because, just as we cannot see our own face without a mirror, we cannot always clearly read what is going on with ourselves.

You need to go to a spiritual teacher/master. Someone who can read the Heart. Go, but don't try to impress them. A real master would far rather you burst into tears and be real with them than see you pretending to be in a place that you're not.

Try hard to find someone. If things get really difficult, try this, it won't fix everything but it will cleanse you of negative energy while you're looking:

Thoroughly clean a bathtub and then half-fill it with clear, warm tap water. Pour a jar of seawater into it (if you cannot get seawater, fill the jar from a stream and mix in a big spoon of salt). Standing over the bath, take some dried bay leaves, set them on fire and, as they burn, drop them into the bath/water (don't put the match in the water). You can say a prayer of cleansing as you do this if you wish or just say something like "Be Purified". Undress, leave absolutely nothing on, no jewellery or anything like that and get into the bath. Make sure that the water makes contact with every part of your body. After a few minutes, get out and let the water drain away. You can also use this water to clean the home or any objects in it. If you want to do that, fill a jar from the bath just before you step into it.
 

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It's the ritualist and not the ritual that counts. A proficient magical ritualist would just conjure one of the three or four spirits he/she routinely works with by any method of his/her choosing and simply ask it, or even more informally question his/her HGA about what's going on. Such experienced practitioners have no need of outside occult counsel, they write their own rituals.

If you have not finished your groundwork (meditation, visualisation, shadow work, etc.) or don't have a natural talent for magic, all the barbarous names, wands and incense in the world will do you no good. Reading some mystical words of power in a book and actually declaiming them so that your hair stands on end (and a theoretical observer will get goosebumps) is quite another matter - I know because as a beginner, I've been trying the same ancient ritual for half a year now and am just beginning to feel something (very faintly) while seasoned ritualists have reported all kinds of visions and miracles they have derived from it, and prodigies with an inborn gift were simply blown away when performing it for the first time (or so I've read).

Any angel or demon can answer your question; if you know how to contact them, you don't need us for ritual advice. Likewise, if you're good at any of the numerous divination methods that exist, you don't need us either. If you do need outside help, get a spiritual teacher/master like @Galahad suggested or somebody specialising in tarot readings or another form of divination.

Ritual instructions will be of zero use if you don't have the skills to use them, it's as simple as that. Working on those skills alone may improve your situation, so better start now, and you may see things more clearer just by exercising on a daily basis.
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Here's a thought though: Read Damon Brand's "Archangels of Magick" and petition Raphael who is known as the Celestial Physician. Take your time to build relationship with him, and by all means memorize those words of power and learn how to speak them with passion and conviction.
 
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This is exceptionally difficult because, just as we cannot see our own face without a mirror, we cannot always clearly read what is going on with ourselves.

You need to go to a spiritual teacher/master. Someone who can read the Heart. Go, but don't try to impress them. A real master would far rather you burst into tears and be real with them than see you pretending to be in a place that you're not.

Try hard to find someone. If things get really difficult, try this, it won't fix everything but it will cleanse you of negative energy while you're looking:

Thoroughly clean a bathtub and then half-fill it with clear, warm tap water. Pour a jar of seawater into it (if you cannot get seawater, fill the jar from a stream and mix in a big spoon of salt). Standing over the bath, take some dried bay leaves, set them on fire and, as they burn, drop them into the bath/water (don't put the match in the water). You can say a prayer of cleansing as you do this if you wish or just say something like "Be Purified". Undress, leave absolutely nothing on, no jewellery or anything like that and get into the bath. Make sure that the water makes contact with every part of your body. After a few minutes, get out and let the water drain away. You can also use this water to clean the home or any objects in it. If you want to do that, fill a jar from the bath just before you step into it.
Thank you, I will do what you say, but it is difficult to find the stream, it will be a little tricky, what is the feature of bay leaves, in fact, bay leaves are used in a few rituals in the same way, why?

I can't find the people you say, I wish I could.
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It's the ritualist and not the ritual that counts. A proficient magical ritualist would just conjure one of the three or four spirits he/she routinely works with by any method of his/her choosing and simply ask it, or even more informally question his/her HGA about what's going on. Such experienced practitioners have no need of outside occult counsel, they write their own rituals.

If you have not finished your groundwork (meditation, visualisation, shadow work, etc.) or don't have a natural talent for magic, all the barbarous names, wands and incense in the world will do you no good. Reading some mystical words of power in a book and actually declaiming them so that your hair stands on end (and a theoretical observer will get goosebumps) is quite another matter - I know because as a beginner, I've been trying the same ancient ritual for half a year now and am just beginning to feel something (very faintly) while seasoned ritualists have reported all kinds of visions and miracles they have derived from it, and prodigies with an inborn gift were simply blown away when performing it for the first time (or so I've read).

Any angel or demon can answer your question; if you know how to contact them, you don't need us for ritual advice. Likewise, if you're good at any of the numerous divination methods that exist, you don't need us either. If you do need outside help, get a spiritual teacher/master like @Galahad suggested or somebody specialising in tarot readings or another form of divination.

Ritual instructions will be of zero use if you don't have the skills to use them, it's as simple as that. Working on those skills alone may improve your situation, so better start now, and you may see things more clearer just by exercising on a daily basis.
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Here's a thought though: Read Damon Brand's "Archangels of Magick" and petition Raphael who is known as the Celestial Physician. Take your time to build relationship with him, and by all means memorize those words of power and learn how to speak them with passion and conviction.
I don't feel anything, I don't know why, maybe because of feelings like arrogance in me, I can't feel anything, what you call angel or devil is actually all the same for us, that is, jinn, summoning it will not work very well and it scares me to be honest,
It could be an angel or a demon as you call it, tell me a simple ritual if you know how to summon it.


I'll read the book too, can we change emotions? Again, maybe with a ritual?
 

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Thank you, I will do what you say, but it is difficult to find the stream, it will be a little tricky, what is the feature of bay leaves, in fact, bay leaves are used in a few rituals in the same way, why?

I can't find the people you say, I wish I could.
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I don't feel anything, I don't know why, maybe because of feelings like arrogance in me, I can't feel anything, what you call angel or devil is actually all the same for us, that is, jinn, summoning it will not work very well and it scares me to be honest,
It could be an angel or a demon as you call it, tell me a simple ritual if you know how to summon it.


I'll read the book too, can we change emotions? Again, maybe with a ritual?

Bluntly put, the only thing that ever changed my emotions long-term have been antidepressants. Maybe I won't need them one day when I have progressed on my path a lot farther but right now they make me able to walk that path in the first place.

Five different members have given you advice now and you're still not satisfied that there is no quick'n'easy fix that will solve all your problems 'as if by magic'. I repeat: you won't be able to profit from any ritual suggested to you if you're not skilled at magic, and if you were, you wouldn't need any suggestions from us anyway. We can't tell you what to do if you don't know what you want, and we certainly won't do any research about rituals for you.

Again bluntly put, major depression can make you lethargic, feel dead and indifferent inside, rob you of all your energy and drive, which is why I won't tell you to finally man up and get cracking already because I know how it is. But if you put your hopes in some secret ritual that is capable of magically removing all your distress and that you think we're witholding from you, you're dreaming.
 

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Bluntly put, the only thing that ever changed my emotions long-term have been antidepressants. Maybe I won't need them one day when I have progressed on my path a lot farther but right now they make me able to walk that path in the first place.

Five different members have given you advice now and you're still not satisfied that there is no quick'n'easy fix that will solve all your problems 'as if by magic'. I repeat: you won't be able to profit from any ritual suggested to you if you're not skilled at magic, and if you were, you wouldn't need any suggestions from us anyway. We can't tell you what to do if you don't know what you want, and we certainly won't do any research about rituals for you.

Again bluntly put, major depression can make you lethargic, feel dead and indifferent inside, rob you of all your energy and drive, which is why I won't tell you to finally man up and get cracking already because I know how it is. But if you put your hopes in some secret ritual that is capable of magically removing all your distress and that you think we're witholding from you, you're dreaming.
I used antidepressants for a while and I hate drugs, no, it is enough for me that you understand me, you do not need to do a separate research for me, I do it myself, I am a person who believes that a person can be anything, there is no difference, only the starting points are different, I think people can reach what they want in a different way. , if you feel that you have shared your information sufficiently, it is fine with me
Don't show aggression, not everyone's life is the same, you have to be like me to understand me, not finding what you are looking for is one of the bad things that is happening to me right now.
thanks for the information
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Bluntly put, the only thing that ever changed my emotions long-term have been antidepressants. Maybe I won't need them one day when I have progressed on my path a lot farther but right now they make me able to walk that path in the first place.

Five different members have given you advice now and you're still not satisfied that there is no quick'n'easy fix that will solve all your problems 'as if by magic'. I repeat: you won't be able to profit from any ritual suggested to you if you're not skilled at magic, and if you were, you wouldn't need any suggestions from us anyway. We can't tell you what to do if you don't know what you want, and we certainly won't do any research about rituals for you.

Again bluntly put, major depression can make you lethargic, feel dead and indifferent inside, rob you of all your energy and drive, which is why I won't tell you to finally man up and get cracking already because I know how it is. But if you put your hopes in some secret ritual that is capable of magically removing all your distress and that you think we're witholding from you, you're dreaming.
Let me tell you something, doctors say that nobody is cured by antidepressants.
 

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Let me tell you something, doctors say that nobody is cured by antidepressants.
Major depression can't be cured, antidepressants will guarantee that you have a chance of having a decent life after all.

Psychotherapist get paid to lend a shoulder to cry on. Please bear in mind that we don't.
 

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Major depression can't be cured, antidepressants will guarantee that you have a chance of having a decent life after all.

Psychotherapist get paid to lend a shoulder to cry on. Please bear in mind that we don't.
every disease can be cured but the solution is unknown, who knows the solution, maybe the one who knows is keeping it for himself , I hope you get better
 

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hi there,
i read you cant find anything at this point. maybe stop searching and start accepting. you are not the disease. decide to feel good and make it so. remember stuff that feels good. remember the event and hold on to it and if possible repeat it. food that you like, music that makes you happy, scroll pictures online of things that make you happy, etc.

when you start to recognize the feeling of being happy it might be scary, due to feeling bad is more normal ;) , but when you get the hang of it you can also find the feeling while doing nothing and then make for example breakfast or just get out of bed. dont make it big. every thing you do while holding on to this new feeling is a step forward. and on moments it doesnt work the way you want remember 2 steps forward, 1 step back is still dancing tru life.

in essence its quite simple: researching bad things make you feel bad, including feelings and emotions. so start researching good things like the good foot/d, grace, gratitude, good luck, joy, etc. and remember to go from good towards better, never best cause that creates strife and better creates a road.
 
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