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If i am wrong, then why don't these magicians on the forum just simply banish the psychic vampires that are attacking them?
You can rest assured many here already have. Might want to take the temperature of the room before shitting on the carpet.
 

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It clearly isn't working if people are coming into threads requesting additional perspective. I will explain why. it isn't working

This is from the Wiki page on the LBRP. "The banishing ritual is perceived as banishing any chaotic or impure forms of the elements from the
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. The invoking ritual is perceived to invoke pure forms of the elements."

"any chaotic or impure forms of the elements"

The vampiric tendril is a manifestation of their will. In the vein of will we can think of the ultimate creative force, Keter.

This is to say, from one divine spark to another the vampiric tendril manifests as the vampires pure divine will and links with the victims own crown.

Not chaotic in nature, not an impure element. So by definition alone, we can see that basic banishing spells don't work. You would need to defend yourself in some other way, such as invoking Camael to pass judgement on the vampire.

Spiritual parasites are incomplete manifestations on this Earth, which opens them up to weakness that basic spellcasting can capitalize on. Vampire's are often enlightened, wholly composed, occultists who exist totally in multiple heavens. If you can't see why a banishing spell wouldn't work to ward one off, you are lacking in the very fundamental knowledge neccesary to properly work with demons/spiritual beings.

What even crazier than that though, I told you how to protect from psychic vampirism with shields. You don't have to believe me, but dont act like I'm not reading the room when you have A. ignored the messages in this thread, and B. ignored the solution in favor of arguing your basic understanding is superior to someone elses.

I'm a vampire dude. You think I've never been banished? Lmao. You can look a gift horse in the mouth, but don't get mad when you get bitten.
 

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You don't need to be rude just because you are in over your head in conversation. You obviously don't understand the depth of what is being discussed here and for some reason you insist on making attacks of my character when I have been nothing but helpful to you despite my opinion of you. You're lack of character and knowledge speaks volumes for your ignorance.
 

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As with many occult concepts, Vampirism is victim to a lot off ignorance surrounding it. Most occultists don't base their studies on a fringe subject that could be considered a disease, they are usually more interested in self work that will make them like God. So I'm here to shed some light on Vampirism as I know it.

I've been vampire for almost 21 years. I was awakened after someone close to me died. As many vampires, this awakening to thirst was also accompanied by a period of self illumination. I started exploring the occult, at a base level, and found my base theological beliefs.

I should note that when I realized I was a vampire, it did not originate with a thirst for blood, but rather the desire for energy. I learned of pranic vampires and I practiced sending my aura to other peoples spirit and siphoning off of them for a few months before the sanguine urge awoke in me. I had been reading a website about real life vapires, and the idea to try blood instead of just energy siphoning seemed to appeal to the side of me responsible for euphoria. Just thinking about it excited me, but not psychologically, it felt like there was a fire lit up in me as I sat at my computer desk and began studying safe bloodletting practices. I knew I had found the solution to my imblanced energy consumption.

So with that, I'd like to step into the more occultic side of Vampirism.

Firstly I would like to offer a definition for Vampirism.

"A vampire is a living being that cannot produce their own whole energy due to a spiritual imbalance and must consume raw energy in order to function."

From that we can determine that Vampirism is a spiritual curse on a human. Something, likely a spiritual emanation of God, has interacted with the human soul and caused a diability in the energy production of that being. This can be further identified as the Divine Spark being dirtied due to specific thoughtforms existing in the mind. A Christian might see what I am saying as a sort of divine punishmment for thinking evil thoughts.

In one way, Vampirism is a sort of gatekeeping device for the Divine. If a human takes theiir work out of their respected role, the reaction of energy inside their soul could curse them. In some forms of thought there are demons and such that govern over sins that might turn one to Vampirism. However for the purposes of this discussion we should keep these planes of Divinity abstract.

So that covers what a vampire is. But the meat is still on the bone.

For vampires, drinking blood is about drawing on the vital energy within divinity. The actual act of drinking blood is symbolic in nature, and can be accompannied with certain rituals, however, it is not the ideal way for a vampire to obtain eenergy. I would argue that by nature of the three human bodies from which energy can be drawn upon, Vampirism is actually a predominantly non physical status. Most vampires show no signs of their condition eitherr. Some will experience sun sensitivity, but that can also be mirrored in their spiritual imbalance.

Real vampires dont physically NEED blood, but rather, their mind and soul has become accustomed to the satanic ritual of blood drinking. Like a crack addict, the vampire is overcome with euphoria from partaking, and their natural flow of energy adapts to the total experience, triggering psychological urges to partake again. On that note, blood is also incredibly rich in aetheric energy, so the euphoria and wholesome energy absorption become intertwined.

That is to say, vampires dont physically need blood. However, spiritually, it may be imperative for the vampire to drink from a donor. This is typically determined by the vampires theological beliefs. Certain vampires might require a lovers blood during particular Satanic rituals that are designed to prolong nourishment, for example.

I hope that clears some things up for the average occultist.
So... are you suggesting that being vampire is consequence of god's punishment? Do I understand that right?
 

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Less "God's punishment", as much as "divine providence."

I believe that souls put forth work to fit their desired role on Earth. Part of that is succumbing to what could be considered spiritual "disease." Such as greediness. Depending on the fated path for the human, vampirism might be part of that. So to say it's a punishment is partly true depending on your prspective. Curse, disese, punishment, those are words we use to translate the condition of the vampire to a human mind. But i do not think that the almighty views vampirism as a punishment, and most vampires do not either. It'd be better to define it as a reaction to the spiritual energies one evokes in their life,
 

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You don't need to be rude just because you are in over your head in conversation. You obviously don't understand the depth of what is being discussed here and for some reason you insist on making attacks of my character when I have been nothing but helpful to you despite my opinion of you. You're lack of character and knowledge speaks volumes for your ignorance.

Have you been a practicing vampire for almost 21 years, or have you been a vampire for almost 21 years?
 
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