A thought on learning

[Öwnchef]

No teacher wants me. They are afraid.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: The Order
General Occult Discussion
SUBTOPIC: A thought on learning
Ownchef,

No teacher wants me. They are afraid.

Q: Why should "they" be afraid?​

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Q: What is it that you want to learn?​

I always get confused if I am working in the blind. Most Warlocks and Witches want to know what it is they are dealing with; and whether or not it is a lure to entice the unsuspecting.

VR
R

 

[Öwnchef]

Probably my knowledge that they fear. I am in this for over fifty years.
Yes, tell me something new, magically. Good for a start!

 

[Öwnchef]

That sounded arrogant. Didn't mean it, sorry. It's just the truth.

 

[Centh]

For me, there's a thin line between arrogance and deep insecurity. Even if I'm a literal god: if I cannot say something regarding the occult with conviction, then I shouldn't say anything at all.

 

[Öwnchef]

All schools, especially the oldest have deeply hidden secrets. That is why you cannot talk about Daoism. Without the secret key you will get it all wrong.
Then again if you had the secret nobody believes you. In other words it is worthless in telling. You do it. There is no other way.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: The Order
General Occult Discussion
SUBTOPIC: A thought on learning
Ownchef,

That sounded arrogant. Didn't mean it, sorry. It's just the truth.

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Well, you do not have to worry about that with me.

• Some of the most memorable characters on stage and screen are loved by the audience. The example, Maverick in Top Gun. Everyone roots for him. But that character has no trouble expressing how much better he is than everyone else.
• And while you lend a tone that is somewhat disagreeable, - in your case, I get the impression it is more like dust obscuring a painting. While the true nature of the painting is not immediately obvious, once the dust is busted off the interest in the painting improves.

I generally do not try to address social media commentary on such matters, unless the arrogance has a direct impact on the rebuttal. Although, if I am wrong, and her learned from the exchange I might capitulate or apology as may be due.
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Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Mider2009]

You all need to stop making this academic...you will either understand something and be able to use it or not.

 

[Öwnchef]

I am tired of this. There is nothing to gain in it for me. There never was. I do not even use my magical name anymore. People died, friends died.
Here they read a PDF. We used to have a name for them. Twit-Magicians. Nobody cares of course. Dust in the wind. We are all equal in the end.

 

[Vandheer]

Why is everyone a nut job in this forum

 

[Öwnchef]

Just curious how it feels.
Writing in English meant a new start for me. I did a few before. In Nema's TOTO for example. I published in the Equinox. I have to get rid of that old shit. Sometimes sad, you know.

 

[Öwnchef]

Stranger than the sunrise
Darker than the night
Fiercer than a rainstorm
This is man's delight
This is man's delight
Weaker than a moment
And hot as any fire
Blinder than the blind eye
This is man's desire.

Uriah Heep. Blind eye

 

[Öwnchef]

I stopped when I wasn't able to teach The Living Entities. I created my own letters and gave them life. Send them out to do my work. I can do it. But nobody else could. It was so beautiful, I couldn't let go. Still can't. And no, it is not a matter of just doing it. I CAN. And I still can.

 

[saxazax]

Why is everyone a nut job in this forum

ill take a nut job any day, just leme know when youll be in town

 

[Jarhyn]

You all need to stop making this academic...you will either understand something and be able to use it or not.

Like, the whole point of my being here is to approach these topics academically, even if they aren't topics academia would normally touch even with a 10 foot pole.

 

[saxazax]

Like, the whole point of my being here is to approach these topics academically, even if they aren't topics academia would normally touch even with a 10 foot pole.

im new here so i dont want to step on too many toes but it does look like theres a lot of woo woo in these parts

 

[Centh]

Sometimes I worry I'm gonna act crazy and get nothing done, like that one dude who murdered the two women in his own depraved delusion that a heinous act was all it took to win the lottery without getting caught. Sometimes it feels like any progress I experience is just unchecked depravity from a total novice.

 

[Mider2009]

Like, the whole point of my being here is to approach these topics academically, even if they aren't topics academia would normally touch even with a 10 foot pole.

i see no point in these pointless debates, i Can know a lot 9f stuff in books doesn’t make me an engineer

 

[Centh]

i see no point in these pointless debates, i Can know a lot 9f stuff in books doesn’t make me an engineer

But please, try to do anything to your car parts without knowing what they're for, and you will see how wrong you are. You must know how something works to use it.

 

[Öwnchef]

But please, try to do anything to your car parts without knowing what they're for, and you will see how wrong you are. You must know how something works to use it.

Not with Chasidim. When their ship gets in a fierce storm they all move under deck and let G_D sail the ship.
Don't get me wrong. If you have no idea what you are doing, you better keep your hands off. Most Americans do this with their shitboxes. If it stops moving they open the hood and kick at the tire. And wait for assistance.
I brought a Peugeot RV over to the US and drove it from the Keys to Alaska. Even when I only changed the exhaust pipe or made an oil and filter change they wanted to hire me on the spot. They looked at me as if I did some Voodoo.