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Animal sacrifice, consuming their livers

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What is the significance of sacrificing animals in rituals and consuming their livers? How do practitioners do it without having health risks? Also is it compulsory or are they substitutes?
 

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What is the significance of sacrificing animals in rituals and consuming their livers? How do practitioners do it without having health risks? Also is it compulsory or are they substitutes?

Never heard of this and also would never do. My practice is a lot of energy-based and involves also working with the Angels, Deities, Astrology etc and I do not need to do any animal sacrifice whatsoever. I'm in fact really pro-animal safety so why would I eat and sacrifice the liver of the piggie.
 

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This is not something I have ever heard of, certainly in modern times. Although ofc if you own a pig farm...

I personally believe that this kind of thing is unnecessary nonsense.

Otherwise I recommend fava beans and a nice Chi
This is not something I have ever heard of, certainly in modern times. Although ofc if you own a pig farm...

I personally believe that this kind of thing is unnecessary nonsense.

Otherwise I recommend fava beans and a nice Chianti...
In Jake Stratton Kent's book Cyprian's book of spirits there were many rites where it said "Sacrifice the animal and consume it's liver. I was surprised too and no one ever brought it up that I know of
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Never heard of this and also would never do. My practice is a lot of energy-based and involves also working with the Angels, Deities, Astrology etc and I do not need to do any animal sacrifice whatsoever. I'm in fact really pro-animal safety so why would I eat and sacrifice the liver of the piggie.
In she of the night the author talks about the importance of sacrifice though he didn't condone nor condemn it
 

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In she of the night the author talks about the importance of sacrifice though he didn't condone nor condemn it

It's really weird. I skimmed through that pdf a little. I cannot say that I agree with sacrifices.

I am not into worshipping or working with Demons either.
 

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What is the significance of sacrificing animals in rituals and consuming their livers? How do practitioners do it without having health risks? Also is it compulsory or are they substitutes?

Its an extension of early sympathetic magic ; you eat the smart animals brain to get smart , the brave animals heart to get courage , etc They saw the liver as an organ that controlled a lot more in the body than we think today .... a type of 'brain / heart ' , seat of the soul and life - of course this is general, it changes in detail over time and location .

Practioners that want to do this probably go to the butcher to get their liver , that should not be a health risk .

Unless you have some plan to sacrifice the animal yourself tear out the liver and eat it .....

I cant think who would make it compulsory and to whom .... what an unusual question !

Certainly there are substitutes ; take some mineral and vitamin supplements and some protein .
 

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In the practice of Brazilian Quimbanda, animal sacrifice and the handling of ritual elements carry deep spiritual and energetic significance.
Here, NotebookLM extracted from Quimbanda sources

1. Significance of Animal Sacrifice and the Liver
  • Animal Sacrifice: Sacrificing an animal represents the offering of blood (life) to spiritual forces. It is performed to strengthen the connection between the world of the living and the world of the dead, glorify ancestors, and open portals (nexions) for magical work. Because spirits do not have physical bodies, they require the vital energy of these offerings to manifest, act on the material plane, and intervene in human lives. Esoterically, the act of imolation can also represent fecundity and the generation of creative energy.
  • The Liver (Fígado): Within beef offerings (carne bovina), different parts of the animal communicate specific codes to the spirits. Beef liver is highly significant and is primarily recommended for rituals involving protection and spiritual cleanings. However, depending on how it is directed, the liver can also be utilized to incite war or spiritual battles.
  • Consumption: While the sources do not depict practitioners consuming raw livers for health benefits, they do establish that after a sacrifice is made, practitioners are permitted to cook and consume the remaining body of the animal (such as the rooster). When organs like the liver are consumed, they are prepared as culinary dishes, such as sarapatel (a dish containing the heart, kidneys, lungs, liver, and spleen of a goat), which are fried and heavily seasoned.
2. Wholesome Practices and Safety Protocols
To minimize spiritual and physical health risks during these intense rituals, practitioners follow specific traditional guidelines:
  • Healthy Execution: The texts emphasize that when sacrifices are accepted, it is imperative to perform them in a healthy and wholesome manner (forma sadia) for both the spirits and the humans involved.
  • Purifying Filters: Animals are often raised in poor conditions. To prevent physical or spiritual impurities from contaminating the ritual, practitioners use purifying filters (such as mixtures of water and honey, water and palm oil, or lavender) to wash the animal's beak, feet, or body prior to sacrifice. This ensures that any negative load the animal carries is not transferred.
  • Hygiene and Discharges: For heavy or negative works (such as those done in cemeteries), safety protocols dictate that practitioners must not bring negative vibrations home. This includes washing hands with water and sugar after negative spells and performing water-discharge rituals before entering one's home. Furthermore, the texts warn that in specific malevolent workings under Exu Morcego, sacrificed animals can be vulnerable to contracting rabies (hidrofobia), highlighting the dangerous nature of raw or hostile environments if handled without appropriate spiritual safeguards.
3. Compulsory Nature and Spiritual Substitutes
Animal sacrifice is not compulsory in Quimbanda, and the system offers various ritual substitutes:
  • Excluding the Animal: The texts state that a sacrifice must only be performed by a qualified mão de faca (ritual slaughterer). If a qualified person is unavailable, the animal must be excluded from the ritual entirely, and only the farofa (vegetable offering) should be prepared.
  • Herbal Substitutes: The herb Cunanã is explicitly noted as a traditional botanical substitute that can partially replace animal sacrifices to Exu.
  • The Broad Classification of "Blood": Because Quimbanda views "blood" as the essential fluid of life, animal blood (red animal blood) can be substituted with other types of "blood" from the mineral, vegetable, or animal kingdoms:
    • Green Blood (Sangue Verde): Macerated plant juices and herb saps.
    • Red Vegetable Blood (Sangue Vermelho Vegetal): Palm oil (epô or dendê), honey, or the red powder osùn.
    • Black Blood (Sangue Negro): Charcoal, plant resins, indigo (wáji), or the ashes of previously burned ritual plants.
    • White Blood (Sangue Branco): Saliva, breath, plant milks, vegetable fats (such as banha de Ori), and distilled spirits like cachaça (marafo).
These alternative "bloods" allow practitioners to feed and activate their sacred vessels (assentamentos) and direct their intentions effectively without relying solely on animal slaughter.
Would you like me to outline the specific, step-by-step preparation for the vegetable and drink offerings (the padê) that can be used instead of animal sacrifices?
 

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I remember that in Hellenismos (the Greek revival), there was animal sacrifice, but they’d only take a small portion, cook it, and offer it to build a reciprocal relationship with the gods (kharis). The whole idea was to give offerings in hopes of getting blessings back. It’s basically a religious give-and-take. Even when the worshippers shared the meat from a sacrifice, it was still essentially a holocaust (a burnt offering): once the offering was given, it completely belonged to the god. But as part of this reciprocal relationship, the gods wouldn’t take the whole thing. They’d give a portion back to the worshippers to sustain them and reward their devotion.

When it comes to making offerings or doing rituals, I usually pick foods I actually like so nothing goes to waste. As for alcohol, since I don’t drink, I always pour it out onto the earth nearby.

The gods I worship have told me they’re more than happy when we offer them things we genuinely enjoy. To make sure I don’t miss the mark on what they like, I usually prepare a whole bunch of different options just in case.
"The above is translated from Chinese to English. Please bear with me if there are any mistakes. 🙏"
 

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In the practice of Brazilian Quimbanda, animal sacrifice and the handling of ritual elements carry deep spiritual and energetic significance.
Here, NotebookLM extracted from Quimbanda sources

1. Significance of Animal Sacrifice and the Liver
  • Animal Sacrifice: Sacrificing an animal represents the offering of blood (life) to spiritual forces. It is performed to strengthen the connection between the world of the living and the world of the dead, glorify ancestors, and open portals (nexions) for magical work. Because spirits do not have physical bodies, they require the vital energy of these offerings to manifest, act on the material plane, and intervene in human lives. Esoterically, the act of imolation can also represent fecundity and the generation of creative energy.
  • The Liver (Fígado): Within beef offerings (carne bovina), different parts of the animal communicate specific codes to the spirits. Beef liver is highly significant and is primarily recommended for rituals involving protection and spiritual cleanings. However, depending on how it is directed, the liver can also be utilized to incite war or spiritual battles.
  • Consumption: While the sources do not depict practitioners consuming raw livers for health benefits, they do establish that after a sacrifice is made, practitioners are permitted to cook and consume the remaining body of the animal (such as the rooster). When organs like the liver are consumed, they are prepared as culinary dishes, such as sarapatel (a dish containing the heart, kidneys, lungs, liver, and spleen of a goat), which are fried and heavily seasoned.
2. Wholesome Practices and Safety Protocols
To minimize spiritual and physical health risks during these intense rituals, practitioners follow specific traditional guidelines:
  • Healthy Execution: The texts emphasize that when sacrifices are accepted, it is imperative to perform them in a healthy and wholesome manner (forma sadia) for both the spirits and the humans involved.
  • Purifying Filters: Animals are often raised in poor conditions. To prevent physical or spiritual impurities from contaminating the ritual, practitioners use purifying filters (such as mixtures of water and honey, water and palm oil, or lavender) to wash the animal's beak, feet, or body prior to sacrifice. This ensures that any negative load the animal carries is not transferred.
  • Hygiene and Discharges: For heavy or negative works (such as those done in cemeteries), safety protocols dictate that practitioners must not bring negative vibrations home. This includes washing hands with water and sugar after negative spells and performing water-discharge rituals before entering one's home. Furthermore, the texts warn that in specific malevolent workings under Exu Morcego, sacrificed animals can be vulnerable to contracting rabies (hidrofobia), highlighting the dangerous nature of raw or hostile environments if handled without appropriate spiritual safeguards.
3. Compulsory Nature and Spiritual Substitutes
Animal sacrifice is not compulsory in Quimbanda, and the system offers various ritual substitutes:
  • Excluding the Animal: The texts state that a sacrifice must only be performed by a qualified mão de faca (ritual slaughterer). If a qualified person is unavailable, the animal must be excluded from the ritual entirely, and only the farofa (vegetable offering) should be prepared.
  • Herbal Substitutes: The herb Cunanã is explicitly noted as a traditional botanical substitute that can partially replace animal sacrifices to Exu.
  • The Broad Classification of "Blood":Because Quimbanda views "blood" as the essential fluid of life, animal blood (red animal blood) can be substituted with other types of "blood" from the mineral, vegetable, or animal kingdoms:
    • Green Blood (Sangue Verde): Macerated plant juices and herb saps.
    • Red Vegetable Blood (Sangue Vermelho Vegetal): Palm oil (epô or dendê), honey, or the red powder osùn.
    • Black Blood (Sangue Negro): Charcoal, plant resins, indigo (wáji), or the ashes of previously burned ritual plants.
    • White Blood (Sangue Branco): Saliva, breath, plant milks, vegetable fats (such as banha de Ori), and distilled spirits like cachaça (marafo).
These alternative "bloods" allow practitioners to feed and activate their sacred vessels (assentamentos) and direct their intentions effectively without relying solely on animal slaughter.
Would you like me to outline the specific, step-by-step preparation for the vegetable and drink offerings (the padê) that can be used instead of animal sacrifices?
Please avoid copy pasting AI content on WF. It’s fine to use it for research, but write up the post by yourself please.
 

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i find this most interesting because i regularly consume raw liver and raw brains, blood ect but im not sure how to make a ritual out of it and these are not animals i kill myself i purchase it from a butcher and no theres no need of worrying about getting sick or health complications ive been doing it for a while now and that kind of ting is a myth
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do i need an altar to this or do i just put it on a plate and if so how long do i leave it out
"I usually offer food on a plate for a set period of time. Once the candle burns out, I can eat the offerings myself. I prefer buying candles that last for about an hour. If it burns for too long, I can just extinguish it.

As for the offerings themselves, if they are for deities of the underworld, they can be buried in the soil; if they are for heavenly deities, they can be burned."
 

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What is the significance of sacrificing animals in rituals and consuming their livers? How do practitioners do it without having health risks? Also is it compulsory or are they substitutes?
Blood is probably the most potent form of payment and spirits, planets, and deities have associated animals. Blood is the vital life force. The essential animating principle. It is the most physically direct access you have to the occult properties and virtues of an animal and its associated spiritual governance. On top of this - proto-medicine worked off a theory of humors that caused disease and illness. It was believed that certain organs generated these humors and therefore were responsible for their balances. This by extension, would mean those organs had occult virtues and sympathies that were once again - linked to the spiritual forces and heirarchies that the humors the organ generated.

For example Saturn's animals are crows, camels, dogs, and cats. Saturn governs melancholy which was believed to be generated by the spleen. So in a saturnian spell I might want to include the spleen of a camel in order to patently access this power over melancholy. On top of this, by consuming the spleen i align my digestion and physical makeup with Saturn. Meaning he will be more predisposed to entering my body or working through my body. As I have consumed his animal and one of his organs.

Or lets say the sacrifice of a dove for Venus and love spells - doves carry the occult virtues of Venus... it goes on and on.

Ceremonial practice got rid of this but animal sacrifice, Blood, and the consumption of organs is alive and well in voodoo, hoodoo, santeria, and folk magic. If you walk into the right botanica in a major city you will be able to purchase goats and birds specifically for magic.

Now obviously a lot of modern people have extreme issue with this practice, however, it can be ethical in the same way as ethical butchery and ethical chefing. Utilize the animal with purpose and make sure its raised right.
 

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Animal sacrifices and offerings to the gods in the past were often opportunities for the spiritual leaders and the laypeople to consume meat during a time when animals were the main form of capital and count of wealth, source of labor, transportation, and renewable goods like wool, milk, and eggs. People, especially peasants and commoners, didn't eat meat on the regular back then, only the wealthy did.

People also took live animals home to kill by hand and eat, they weren't pre-killed and set out in grocery stores back then, so it wasn't a big deal for a spell to have an animal sacrifice as part of it because, well, people regularly raised and killed animals at home to eat. Draining the blood is already part of the process of dressing an animal so it wasn't a big deal to collect the blood and use it in spells instead of just throwing it away.
 

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Chaotic energy of the wrong kind.

Do you want your ritual thrown into disarray by the death throes of an animal struggling for its life?

Barbaric rituals fell into disuse for good reason.

Good question! I for one would never want my ritual thrown into disarray by the death throes of an animal struggling for its life. The stress that some animals suffer and how they struggle for life is really stressful.

I for one prefer the energy communication, connection based on sigils and activating them accordingly (based on specific words to be chanted), listen to specific meditational sounds which help me to connect to the spirit I am working with.

IMHO, there is no need for the blood of the animal or their liver or whatever. I would instead choose to interpret things more symbolically like, if the dove is related to Venus, that doesn't mean I will literally sacrifice the dove, but would rather approach what I have to energetically sacrifice / connect with (i.e.: Dove = love, devotion, loyalty) I would connect to those qualities and sacrifice the deactivated state of such qualities, in order to evolve.
 

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what does it mean to sacrafice the deactivated state of qualities like thinking about it alot?

It means to shift my personality and focus and like I have said in my previous post, connect symbolically to the qualities of the Dove.

To better explain it, give up the old status of being disconnected with the qualities of love, devotion and loyalty and start to connect with them more. Thinking about the disconnected status one may have will not be helpful at all, as this would lead to stagnation, and I don't think I need to explain that much why that would be a huge impediment in any magical working for that matter, not just the one I described which is based on symbolism.

To connect healthily with such qualities, you should, like in any progress you want to achieve, start with small things. For example: connect with the qualities of love by first cultivating love for family (Greek Storge: στοργή), then φιλία (Philia) for deep friendships and brotherly regard, then you can proceed to move to Agape (ἀγάπη) (unconditional love), and, if the case is applied: Pragma (πρᾶγμα).

You can also connect with figures like Aphrodite, Hathor, Isis, Virgin Mary, and various other beings that are associated with love in all of its aspects. And, I hope I do not offend you or your practice, but you do not need blood for any of this:


I will share a short guide for example on how to connect with Aphrodite:

Set up a small, dedicated space or altar with items like pink or red candles, rose quartz crystals, sea shells, or fresh flowers.Leave simple offerings such as sweet wine, honey, fresh fruit, chocolate, or clean water. Light a candle or burn rose or jasmine incense to invite her energy.

You can also practice devotion through self care, connections with Art (music, poetry etc.), connections with Nature.

It is important that you wish deep in your soul to change your old status and do the symbolic sacrificing of your old status and becoming someone brand new.
 

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In my opinion every sacrifice of life that is just about killing is degenerated or corrupted practice.
It's ancient, that's for sure. but it started as killing animals for eating them, for survival of humans and offering gods to participate on the kill, thanking them and sometimes giving them a share, through wild animals or maybe even tamed dogs/wolves.

Then it turned into thinking that god demands a kill of a life, and no longer humans killed them for the sake of being alive themselves. Which then... served no good purpose. It became waste of life, which is mockery of the powers of life.
 
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