Im intrigued by the way that the Shams Al Marif has a numerology using the Arabic letters and the Kabbalah has similar powers for the Hebrew letters. The shams and Arabic approach uses magical squares in a more elaborated way. This made me wonder if the Kabbalahists also use/used magical squares and whether that is something the 2 traditions could learn from each other. The Arabic tradition doesn use permutation of letters as much as the Kabbalists (openly anyway). Any thoughts?