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Are Vampires Real or Imagined?

LeChiHao

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Hello everyone!

According to you, do you have the right definition of a vampire? As I know, vampires, if they are real, cannot be like something or someone that can be touched. If I’m not right, then my neighbor is a vampire, isn’t he?

In the north of Vietnam, where many minorities live in the high mountains, they believed that after sundown, someone who is human during the day becomes a vampire at night, then robs and eats animals and children; they might be neighbors, perhaps. But I don’t think that these things are vampires we can touch. And they must be things that are more complex than traditional stories. If not, then we see them as an ethnic group from ancient times. And we will not see many handsome and sexy vampires in Korean comic books!

Finally, what are vampires?
 
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Vampires as we understand is an archetype that was created in the 19th century for fiction. Even thought it was based on different folk beliefs, it's a modern creation.

Esoterism use the idea of vampires for 1) people who suck people energy without even knowing it and 2) people who use energy for a magickal purpose.

Do i believe in vampires as pop culture picture it? No. Do i believe in vampirism... Yes.
 

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We should start with how you define vampire, because there are many answers that can be considered true. After that judging whether they are real is rather simple.

You ask for right definition. There is not one right definition, because there are more that are valid, take different angle and it changes.

Some definitions that are true and yet... Judge for yourself, which ones are vampires.
  • Cosplayers and lifestyle people who are dressing like vamps, some drink human blood
  • people with psychological or maybe truly even medical condition, who drink animal blood for wellbeing
  • people who intentionally (aware of it or not) provoke others to make them feel angry or bad so they themselves feel better, causing people around them to feel weak
  • people who consciously and willingly drain energy from other people through various techniques
  • spirits who wander around and infest dreams to cause intense fear or other negative emotion they could drain to preserve their existence
  • spirit servitors send to people to drain them in order to bring this energy to the magus, who send them to do this task
  • spirits who demand blood offerings in exchange for their help/services
  • spirits who demand sacrifice of living being in exchange for their help/services
 

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Hello everyone!

According to you, do you have the right definition of a vampire? As I know, vampires, if they are real, cannot be like something or someone that can be touched. If I’m not right, then my neighbor is a vampire, isn’t he?

In the north of Vietnam, where many minorities live in the high mountains, they believed that after sundown, someone who is human during the day becomes a vampire at night, then robs and eats animals and children; they might be neighbors, perhaps. But I don’t think that these things are vampires we can touch. And they must be things that are more complex than traditional stories. If not, then we see them as an ethnic group from ancient times. And we will not see many handsome and sexy vampires in Korean comic books!

Finally, what are vampires?
Maybe you should look for shapeshifting and Lucifer dethroned Book
 

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Hello everyone!

According to you, do you have the right definition of a vampire? As I know, vampires, if they are real, cannot be like something or someone that can be touched. If I’m not right, then my neighbor is a vampire, isn’t he?

In the north of Vietnam, where many minorities live in the high mountains, they believed that after sundown, someone who is human during the day becomes a vampire at night, then robs and eats animals and children; they might be neighbors, perhaps. But I don’t think that these things are vampires we can touch. And they must be things that are more complex than traditional stories. If not, then we see them as an ethnic group from ancient times. And we will not see many handsome and sexy vampires in Korean comic books!

Finally, what are vampires?
I'm a little confused. Does your neighbour eat animals and children?
 

LeChiHao

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I hope so too, but what is your basis for even supposing that this is something they might do?
I believe it is because I am weary of cultural and legendary complexity, as well as the demands of the physical world. Nevertheless, I recognize the value of vampire legends in providing a deeper insight into social life, so I question everything around me, including my neighbour.
 

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People in wildness were disappearing through entire history. Sometimes there is a hungry carnivore animal. Other times an accident that leads to death. Person doesn't have to be ever find if scavengers find him first. Also there can happen a fight or ambush that leads to death and being buried in unmarked grave. Also a sickness can happen...

These mystery disappearings cause people to guess what happened and that slowly forms legends...

... and then there are magicians, shamans, some not so good who will do evil magic for right pay. In my country there are still some tales of evil witches' who were being paid for making someone die, priests who would perform their Christian masses for very evil reasons, occultists who were summoning demons to eradicate someone...

Wouldn't surprise me that if someone was on the wrong place at the right time that they could even see one of these summoned beings while doing their appointed task...
 

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Over the past three years, I have repeatedly encountered people who, consciously or unconsciously, seem to drain the energy of others through subtle and not-so-subtle dynamics.


What struck me most was not a single episode, but the pattern. Six out of six individuals. Different faces, same energetic signature.


There were recurring elements:
– Scarcity or near absence of food in their homes.
– Chaotic grocery habits.
– Little to no offering or sharing of food with guests.
– Bulimic tendencies or disordered relationships with nourishment.
– Unusual cognitive sharpness paired with acute suffering used as a form of victim positioning.
– Egocentric manipulation, lowering the energy of others through criticism or subtle invalidation.
– Sexual confusion and deep unresolved trauma in that area.


These were not only acquaintances, but friendships and romantic connections.


At a certain point, I had to stop and ask myself a difficult question:
What kind of energy was I attracting?
Was there a part of my own shadow resonating with these archetypes?
Like Odysseus hearing the call of the Sirens, was there something in me drawn toward this frequency?


I am now consciously distancing myself from these dynamics.
Yet the repetition has left a mark. Six out of six with strikingly similar traits.


I have begun to consider whether some of these patterns resemble forms of energetic vampirism. In one case, I am almost certain of it — a person highly skilled in NLP and mental manipulation. The others felt more embryonic, less refined, yet surprisingly effective at an energetic level.


I am not writing this from a place of accusation, but from inquiry.
What is this phenomenon?
Is it projection? Attraction? A mirror?
Or is there truly a dynamic of conscious or unconscious energy extraction at play?


I am reflecting. I am observing.
And most importantly, I am choosing to reclaim my energy.

I take everything as a teaching.


I know I must reflect deeply on this question:
Which part of my personal history carries a familiarity with the idea of having to nourish those who do not know how to nourish themselves?


Because this archetype is not attracted by chance.
Energetic vampirism — or, more precisely, draining dynamics — are drawn in when there is:


– excessive availability
– porous boundaries
– attraction to intense suffering
– fascination with manipulative intelligence


Perhaps I am like Odysseus.
Odysseus did not block his ears because the Sirens were imaginary.
He restrained himself because he knew his own vulnerability to their song.


And in these recent experiences, I am consciously stepping back.


It is not escape.
It is the reclamation of power.


And yet, I would like to share one final reflection.


What concerns me most is the noticeable increase of these dynamics. I see them more and more frequently. And the more clearly I perceive them, the more it seems that others do not.


That is what feels truly alarming.


Because when emotional manipulation, victim positioning, chronic scarcity consciousness, and unconscious energy extraction become normalized, society itself begins to erode from within. Not through visible war, but through subtle emotional violence.


We are witnessing a collective shadow rising to the surface — but without the tools, maturity, or willingness required for true integration. The shadow is no longer being acknowledged as something to work through; it is being acted out, projected, weaponized.


When suffering becomes identity, when depletion becomes relational currency, when criticism replaces nourishment, we are no longer in dialogue — we are in survival mode.


And a society built on unresolved survival cannot create conscious connection.


This is why boundaries are no longer optional. They are evolutionary.


This is not about judging others. It is about recognizing patterns before they consume us. It is about refusing to participate in cycles of unconscious extraction. It is about choosing integration over entanglement.


If there is a collective shadow intensifying, then the work is not to fight it blindly — but to strengthen clarity, discernment, and energetic sovereignty.


The solution is not fear.
It is awareness.


And awareness, when embodied, is protection.
 

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Over the past three years, I have repeatedly encountered people who, consciously or unconsciously, seem to drain the energy of others through subtle and not-so-subtle dynamics.


What struck me most was not a single episode, but the pattern. Six out of six individuals. Different faces, same energetic signature.


There were recurring elements:
– Scarcity or near absence of food in their homes.
– Chaotic grocery habits.
– Little to no offering or sharing of food with guests.
– Bulimic tendencies or disordered relationships with nourishment.
– Unusual cognitive sharpness paired with acute suffering used as a form of victim positioning.
– Egocentric manipulation, lowering the energy of others through criticism or subtle invalidation.
– Sexual confusion and deep unresolved trauma in that area.


These were not only acquaintances, but friendships and romantic connections.


At a certain point, I had to stop and ask myself a difficult question:
What kind of energy was I attracting?
Was there a part of my own shadow resonating with these archetypes?
Like Odysseus hearing the call of the Sirens, was there something in me drawn toward this frequency?


I am now consciously distancing myself from these dynamics.
Yet the repetition has left a mark. Six out of six with strikingly similar traits.


I have begun to consider whether some of these patterns resemble forms of energetic vampirism. In one case, I am almost certain of it — a person highly skilled in NLP and mental manipulation. The others felt more embryonic, less refined, yet surprisingly effective at an energetic level.


I am not writing this from a place of accusation, but from inquiry.
What is this phenomenon?
Is it projection? Attraction? A mirror?
Or is there truly a dynamic of conscious or unconscious energy extraction at play?


I am reflecting. I am observing.
And most importantly, I am choosing to reclaim my energy.

I take everything as a teaching.


I know I must reflect deeply on this question:
Which part of my personal history carries a familiarity with the idea of having to nourish those who do not know how to nourish themselves?


Because this archetype is not attracted by chance.
Energetic vampirism — or, more precisely, draining dynamics — are drawn in when there is:


– excessive availability
– porous boundaries
– attraction to intense suffering
– fascination with manipulative intelligence


Perhaps I am like Odysseus.
Odysseus did not block his ears because the Sirens were imaginary.
He restrained himself because he knew his own vulnerability to their song.


And in these recent experiences, I am consciously stepping back.


It is not escape.
It is the reclamation of power.


And yet, I would like to share one final reflection.


What concerns me most is the noticeable increase of these dynamics. I see them more and more frequently. And the more clearly I perceive them, the more it seems that others do not.


That is what feels truly alarming.


Because when emotional manipulation, victim positioning, chronic scarcity consciousness, and unconscious energy extraction become normalized, society itself begins to erode from within. Not through visible war, but through subtle emotional violence.


We are witnessing a collective shadow rising to the surface — but without the tools, maturity, or willingness required for true integration. The shadow is no longer being acknowledged as something to work through; it is being acted out, projected, weaponized.


When suffering becomes identity, when depletion becomes relational currency, when criticism replaces nourishment, we are no longer in dialogue — we are in survival mode.


And a society built on unresolved survival cannot create conscious connection.


This is why boundaries are no longer optional. They are evolutionary.


This is not about judging others. It is about recognizing patterns before they consume us. It is about refusing to participate in cycles of unconscious extraction. It is about choosing integration over entanglement.


If there is a collective shadow intensifying, then the work is not to fight it blindly — but to strengthen clarity, discernment, and energetic sovereignty.


The solution is not fear.
It is awareness.


And awareness, when embodied, is protection.
So well said!

I'm not the best in observing, I assume, because I didn't see this before myself, yet you are right. It actually makes a lot of sense. The overall situation is slowly worsening for the most people, affordability of stuff, of managing money for family, getting a house... life becomes harder to afford. Not to mention social networks, that are ruining mentality of the people and AI that is taking away jobs so fast that new are not appearing fast enough to replace. Toxicity sells. If you don't know how to run YT channel, you can keep yourself by throwing dirt on others.

I agree that more and more people get into constant survival mode and in such the kindness and good will erodes. Person is more and more capable of doing anything as the usual moral blocks are bypassed by the biological drive for survival, much much older than humanity itself. So not surprising for me that people are turning more vampiric against each other. Makes sense. Poor food, poor monetary conditions, poor relationships, toxic culture... no wonder they are low on energy and need to feed. This kind of vampirism is sad to witness.

Awareness is not the solution, but it definitely is on the way to it. For this vampirism to stop the energy deficit has to stop. Proper food, right payment for the job, mental heath, etc. depends on what is person lacking.
 

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We should start with how you define vampire, because there are many answers that can be considered true. After that judging whether they are real is rather simple.

You ask for right definition. There is not one right definition, because there are more that are valid, take different angle and it changes.

Some definitions that are true and yet... Judge for yourself, which ones are vampires.
  • Cosplayers and lifestyle people who are dressing like vamps, some drink human blood
  • people with psychological or maybe truly even medical condition, who drink animal blood for wellbeing
  • people who intentionally (aware of it or not) provoke others to make them feel angry or bad so they themselves feel better, causing people around them to feel weak
  • people who consciously and willingly drain energy from other people through various techniques
  • spirits who wander around and infest dreams to cause intense fear or other negative emotion they could drain to preserve their existence
  • spirit servitors send to people to drain them in order to bring this energy to the magus, who send them to do this task
  • spirits who demand blood offerings in exchange for their help/services
  • spirits who demand sacrifice of living being in exchange for their help/services
Actually, I would start with the other question, namely how do you define real? That narrows the field a bit in terms of definition, but it also makes things needlessly complicated, which entertains me as only a real vampire could. That there are people who consciously and willingly appear to drain energy through various techniques...of that I have no doubt whatever having been on the receiving end of such toothy kisses, but I wouldn't exactly call it vampirism because the implication of feeding, never mind draining, is that human beings are a closed system. I mean, how else could you make sense of energy loss? Too me that is a really tough sell though and I would suggest that something else is going on since there is no evidence to support the notion that we are biologically anything less than in constant energy and information exchange with our environment.

Secondly, there is in the folklore an implicit Social Darwinism, which works as interpersonal strategy on a cultural scale, to an extent, but is not sustainable or relevant from an evolutionary perspective. No apex predator feeding only on its own species would survive for long. But folklore deals with cultural patterns that are very real indeed, unless you want to take them literally. So culturally, yes, there are interpersonal dynamics that act as closed systems. After all, the victim has to invite the vampire in, right? But I am not going to include real vampires in the category of humans. I'm not going to include them in the category of spirits either.

Now, it may sound bats but I will affirm the existence of vampires apart from cultural trauma response, null operators, archetypal patterns and that wild liminality where ARG artifacts bleed through into consensus reality. But I'm talking about classical vamps here, and I would go so far as to say that they are absolutely necessary to human existence! Our stories need closed loops and monsters. They don't crawl out of crypts anymore but out from under the discount patio furniture at Target and Menards and they will eat anything and everything that is as real and as precious as blood in our lives. Which is why I wouldn't call on Lestat. With my luck he would show up and bite me.
 
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