"As Above, So Below, As Within so Without"

[Amur]

When being with women and getting to know a friend I noticed that this saying doesn't apparently apply to them. Many magickians say that women really can screw up your magick if you get into a relationship at a magickally bad timing. I see this also as a function of male magick, but what about women magick?

How do you think it works for women?

 

[Anziel_Merkaba]

Many magickians say that women really can screw up your magick if you get into a relationship at a magickally bad timing.

"Gender is in everything; everything has its Masculine and Feminine Principles; Gender manifests on all planes."

There is a balance between masculine and feminine influences, and a lot of people who get magically 'messed up' from a relationship usually didn't properly control their magical influences/energy. In the nature of things, feminine influences are receptive, while masculine influences are expressive, the mix of both masculine and feminine influences leads to creation. In this case the practitioner getting into a relationship and not controlling their energies/influences will create new influences/energies that can cause disorder if not properly handled. These principles occur on all levels, but people getting into relationships often don't really consider outside the physical/emotional levels.

 

[FireBorn]

I’d like to reframe something here, because I think it matters. If a woman can “screw up” your magick, then maybe your magick, or your structure needed tweaking to begin with. Can you hold space for the feminine without performance? Without cracking? If not, then yeah, it’s a mirror. And yeah, that's hard as hell sometimes. Its a challenge, its something I have had to grow into rather than intellectualize. Each woman I encounter present different challenges for me (not to be read as a bad thing).

I agree with Anziel that gender is in everything. As men, we carry an inner feminine (anima), and if you’re not in touch with her at all, you’re more likely to trauma match than truly connect with a woman (Meaning seeking a woman to complete you, etc) That doesn’t make her the disruption. That just makes her the catalyst.

As for how this works for women? I’ll let those with lived experience speak to that.

 

[MorganBlack]

Da hell? Never heard that. That's terrible. Be nice to your sweetie!! Love makes the world go round.

Seems like a mis-translation from trad magic practices.

In the grims there is a time of cleansing (which I rarely do fully) No meat, drugs, no knookie. The idea is to calm our emotions from the "passions" of the world to make you soul more transparent. The concept of "sin" as people think of it does not apply. Greek concepts and practice of clearing of miasma does.

In many animist spirit traditions there are taboos about no menstruating women , but that has more to do cleanliness and not gender. Avoid smelly foods like fish or garlic. The Egyptian sorcerer-priests circumcised themselves, and shaved off all their hair to avoid producing offensive odors. There is a legit line of practice that says human smells makes it less likely they will come. See Dr. Stephen Skinner for more.

You can also banish them with strong smells like burning asafoetida. Or farts. I'd like to see that. Exorcism by flatulence.