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Bardon's Bullshit 'Kabbalah'

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Thank you for clarifying, I appreciate it! I'm still a bit new myself.
(whispers to her ear) "He doesn't know." :D
I wonder, if asked, "Doesn't Bardon have something like "self-reflecting awareness?", how he would squirm.
Comparing Gourdjieff to Bardon... Why study art in an academy? Just draw! You'll eventually learn how to create masterpieces. Right?
 
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I wonder, if asked, "Doesn't Bardon have something like "self-reflecting awareness?",
I said he doesn't talk about it- in the context in terms of the creation of a true 'I' for higher development.

But we can look at what Bardon has that you may be referring to

You are sitting quietly in your familiar position with your eyes closed. Transfer your consciousness exactly into the middle of your body, into the pit of your stomach, the solar plexus. You must feel yourself as a mere dot, as an atom in the center between the spine and the pit f the stomach. This center is the center of gravity of your body. Try to stay there with your consciousness for at least five minutes; you may use an alarm clock to check the time. Regard your body from his point. The more diminutive you imagine yourself, the bigger you will perceive the circumference of your body, which will appear to you as a big universe. At this point, meditate as follows: “I am the center of my body; I am the determining power therein!”

This is quite unsatisfactory towards what I'm talking about. First of all, feeling yourself as a dot takes you out of the deeper possibilities of crystallizing the 'I' Im talking about. Also the imaginative exercise of changing your size. None of this is going to help with the extremely difficult and very subtle sort of processes involved. That goes again for the verbal affirmation, which might have some utility, but not for the self-reflecting awareness at that point, which is far beyond any verbal formulation and should be ideally 'pursued' into ever deeper states of consciousness- where using verbal formulations is obviously a total impediment.
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Comparing Gourdjieff to Bardon... Why study art in an academy? Just draw! You'll eventually learn how to create masterpieces. Right?
If your professor of art is unable to draw- say- a Centaur (Bardon not being to heal himself), you may wonder why you're paying tuition.
 

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@Beyond Everything what system, or style of magick would you recommend for someone interested in the Bardon system? Think outside the self healing aspect of it for a second, I'm sure most ppl aren't really thinking that's a thing, or at least not something they prioritize (hopefully).
 
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