Blackpill is disgusting, especially from a spiritual stand-point

[BrooklynShaman]

Again, I don't know if this is the right forum to post my little rant about, but I believe it is still on-topic in a way.

I find the whole thing about blackpill to be absolutely revolting and especially individuals like Clavicular.

Yes, looks are an important part but the problem lies in this worship of the flesh. As someone who has had a sort of Near Death Experience, I can assure that everything that is material, dies in the dirt, including the body.

By no means am I saying that you should neglect the body; the body itself is a vehicle for you to experience the world but by no means you should start worshiping the body as the Self. I frequently partake in meditation for long periods of time and eventhough I haven't reached any Enlightened state, I do feel like the human mind is much more than muscles and bones.

In Advaita Vedanta, the Self or Atman is the witness to everything; it is that which remains untouched by the plowing of time and as such, is the same as the eternal Brahman that is the bedrock of existence itself; Tat Tvam Asi or Thou Art That, the realization of which leads to satchitananda or the bliss of true knowledge.

Kashmir Shaivism takes this a step further and argues that the material world is an expression of Shiva and that every individual is Shiva contracting Himself to experience the bliss or ananda of recognizing ones trueself. Art produces Rasa or an effect on the perceiver who, moved by the art in front of them, experience the bliss of Shiva, making art, poetry, music and other artforms as legimate ways to achieve moksha or liberation.

Tantra transgresses societal norms as it considers everything to be divine, including sex and wine; though they must not be indulgent for the sake of it but as paths to liberation. Sex, especially, is incredibly sacred as it is the closest two human bodies can come together (no pun intended) to experience a mutual bliss.

What the above traditions point out is that the Self is much more expansive than the body but the body shouldn't be discarded but instead celebrated in a way that allows you to see your own vastness. Blackpill reduces the soul to the body and as seen in the case of Clavicular, leads to a beautiful cage where the soul rots and dies. Blackpill, for me, is the ultimate indoctrination of the supremacy of the Ego and the Matter, both transient and inevitably bred for decay.

These people need to sit in a creamtion ground and see the proud skins of many be ravaged by fire and become indistinguishable from dust.

I am not that well verse on Western occultism (thus I lurk here) but I would love to know ehat Occultists think of Blackpill (if they think about it at all)

Thanks for reading my rant.

Shantih, shantih, shantih

 

[MorganBlack]

I hear ya.

Gen-X here, so I only know of Clavicular from SNL. Isn't he only 26 years old or so? Without making and had excuses for him, the 'ugly' thing he is now may be necessary for him to grow to be the beautiful thing he needs to be later.

I cut everyone under the age of 33 TONS of slack. But if you're still acting like a petulant child past age 40, then I will think there is something seriously wrong with you. In some Jewish spiritual traditions, you were only supposed to take them up after raising a family, having a child, and being an upstanding member of your community. Or it just encourages too much spiritual bypassing.

The Western path is being engaged with Maya. Here we take it seriously, as I like to say, that we are not humans having a spiritual experience; we are already spiritual beings having a human experience.

And some of that will be with all the ugliness. I will say we get better. In my experience, unless someone is a drug addict, narcissist, borderline, or psychopath, (the true "evil" ones) then we all usually become very decent people later in life, no matter our spiritual path. As Jung said, Life Itself is the path of Individuation. We can't avoid it even if we wanted to. (Assuming a person with a functional brain here, and not one with a Dark Triad brain disorder).

And plenty of spiritual people are totally horrible people. Look at Deepak Chopra hanging out with Epstein, or Japanese Rinzai Zen master Sasaki Roshi, who left decades of sexual misconduct and abuse of power that only came to light toward the end of his life. And I say this as someone who loves Zen. No spiritual path will "fix" or dissolve what Zen master Dr. Suzuki called the "Small Mind". We can only mitigate it. Clavicular is 'in' his Small self right now.

 

[Ananda]

And plenty of spiritual people are totally horrible people. Look at Deepak Chopra hanging out with Epstein, or Japanese Rinzai Zen master Sasaki Roshi, who left decades of sexual misconduct and abuse of power that only came to light toward the end of his life. And I say this as someone who loves Zen. No spiritual path will "fix" or dissolve what Zen master Dr. Suzuki called the "Small Mind".

I percieve nothing spiritual about the above two. There are plenty of fake Gurus out there. Many many buddhist monks who only keep the robes because they have no choice.

 

[Lu_CiD]

doesn't being black pilled refer to seeing human life as useless, and meaningless?

groups like O9A, NLM, etc are blackpilled not the looksmaxxers
am I wrong?

 

[sahgwa]

doesn't being black pilled refer to seeing human life as useless, and meaningless?

groups like O9A, NLM, etc are blackpilled not the looksmaxxers
am I wrong?

Thank you for asking, I am not too familiar with new slang. My understanding of black pill came recently as an offshoot of the Matrix mythology, being blue stay the same, red awaken and see. white be hopeful and positive and black simply being depressed and nihilistic. I was not aware it was some kind of trend or belief system having anything to do with bodily image.

 

[Lu_CiD]

its very nihilistic. and has been adopted by fascist and some edgy occult groups.

culling is a big part of thier practices or sacrificing non white ppl in a ritual context.

keeping up with the lingo is a pain for sure lol

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incels are considered blackpilled as well

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[sahgwa]

its very nihilistic. and has been adopted by fascist and some edgy occult groups.

culling is a big part of thier practices or sacrificing non white ppl in a ritual context.

keeping up with the lingo is a pain for sure lol

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That sounds silly

There is something to be said for the use for society in using groups like family, tribes, nation, race, for the purpose of cohesion and pride, so things function well and you dont have chaos. but killing anyone outside of whatever size group is always silly.

Do you have any proof of these groups practising or espousing sacrifice of specifically 'non white' people? sounds very sensationalistic if not true.

 

[Lu_CiD]

That sounds silly

There is something to be said for the use for society in using groups like family, tribes, nation, race, for the purpose of cohesion and pride, so things function well and you dont have chaos. but killing anyone outside of whatever size group is always silly.

Do you have any proof of these groups practising or espousing sacrifice of specifically 'non white' people? sounds very sensationalistic if not true.

yes. besides their own literature they operate in two main groups refered to as com and terrorgram. many sub groups exist but the use of the order of the nine angles philosophy, far right fascism, and nihilistic ideals are all common grounds.

there is one sub group called in English maniac murder crew that has been using the Ukranian Russian conflict to kill the head of that group was arrested for planninga terrorist attack on us children with a faction in that country.

764 another group uses exploitation of a sexual nature to exploit at risk kids with the main goal of producing child abuse material and finally getting g the victim to end their own life after a campaign of terror.

many if the members have been arrested but many many more still operate.

there are countless hours of video that they take from their victims but most is super illegal I have seen some of the I imitation videos of attacks on elderly ppl and stabbing stuff like that that they will edit with a specific esthetic they are fond of.
interpolation and the fbi have put out several warning about these groups. in the last year or so.

there is a ton im leaving out about how this all happend and its connection to the occult, whit supremacy, and black pill groups. but there are books on the subject and this one author does a great job keeping up with it. his name is Spencer sunshine

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[sahgwa]

yes. besides their own literature they operate in two main groups refered to as com and terrorgram. many sub groups exist but the use of the order of the nine angles philosophy, far right fascism, and nihilistic ideals are all common grounds.

there is one sub group called in English maniac murder crew that has been using the Ukranian Russian conflict to kill the head of that group was arrested for planninga terrorist attack on us children with a faction in that country.

764 another group uses exploitation of a sexual nature to exploit at risk kids with the main goal of producing child abuse material and finally getting g the victim to end their own life after a campaign of terror.

many if the members have been arrested but many many more still operate.

there are countless hours of video that they take from their victims but most is super illegal I have seen some of the I imitation videos of attacks on elderly ppl and stabbing stuff like that that they will edit with a specific esthetic they are fond of.
interpolation and the fbi have put out several warning about these groups. in the last year or so.

there is a ton im leaving out about how this all happend and its connection to the occult, whit supremacy, and black pill groups. but there are books on the subject and this one author does a great job keeping up with it. his name is Spencer sunshine

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Sounds very disgusting and not related to the true meaning of the occult at all. Just an excuse for weak minds to be assholes.
But yes, not sure how that relates to black pill unless these people are so nihilistic about life on Earth that they feel they should just spend their time being assholes cuz 'nothing matters.'
This kind of nihilistic , defeatist thinking is exactly what the Parasite Class / so called 'Elites' want from the hoi polloi. Makes them easier to divide and conquer.
Also, fascism is to my understanding a form of corporate or syndicate rule over national governments. Often using totalitarianism as a form of rule, so I am not sure how that would really tie into nihilism either. True black pill so called, in my opinion would be anarchy and survival of the fittest.
But we are getting maybe off topic.

 

[Lu_CiD]

they feel they should just spend their time being assholes cuz 'nothing matters.'

yes pretty much. that and they also are excused to act out sick rape and pedo fantasies. its a surprisingly big part of it

Also, fascism is to my understanding a form of corporate or syndicate rule over national governments. Often using totalitarianism as a form of rule

they absorbed neo national groups like attomwaffen so the ideas of the nazis and that brand of totalitarianism and fascism was added. but really its not 100% cohesive across all of the groups but the core idea is that there are these death chaos gods that they worship supposedly the true creators beings and through genocide ethnic cleansing and mass death a form.of government will then rise in the image of Hitler nazi Germany that will serve the ancient gods basically. but again there are different versions of this and some only want humanity to end other think that can be one with thier gods through rape torture and death. its all immature sickness tbh.

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the original order of the nine angles wasnt like that necessarily the head founder was a racist from the UK and that did influence his work allot but they were closer to a LHP cult than what they are now.

 

[sahgwa]

Very mixed up and misguided at any rate.