[Opinion] Combining different magical traditions

[Jk666]

Great weekend everyone.

what are your thoughts on combining pantheons?

I combine the Egyptian & the Hebrew 1 mostl.

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

Great weekend everyone.

what are your thoughts on combining pantheons?

I combine the Egyptian & the Hebrew 1 mostl.

Some swear up and down not to do so.
Moreso RHP.
I don't see an issue aside from the symbolic conflict of the two pantheons messing with self.
But ... Osiris, Christ and others were crucified by evil.
In Liber Isabel, Thoth, Hermes, Mercury Odin. All referred to as aspects of a particular force.

 

[Yazata]

Great weekend everyone.

what are your thoughts on combining pantheons?

I combine the Egyptian & the Hebrew 1 mostl.

I don't really see a problem with it. When you believe that God (or whoever you see as the Most High) truly is above all, then he/she/it/them/xey.. also rules the other pantheons.
Because most of what I do depends on reinterpreting words or names i have no issue with switching or combining.

 

[KjEno186]

I've read that some deities conflict with each other. You'd have to exercise some care about that otherwise you might have a spiritual war in your temple space.

 

[Sage]

If I treat deities as beings with consciousness and personalities, I think it's better to not mix.

If I treat deities as archetypal representations of something from/of nature just seen through a cultural lens of such and such cultures...I have no problem mixing.

 

[hungry_ghost]

Great weekend everyone.

what are your thoughts on combining pantheons?

I combine the Egyptian & the Hebrew 1 mostl.

People work with multiple spirits from the Goetia without any problems and it's a hodgepodge of Gods and Goddesses from different pantheons. I say Goddesses because they get the gender wrong on some of those spirits and they don't seem to mind.

Same thing applies with Lhp books. The Draconian Tradition works with both Egyptian and Hebrew spirits. They don't have any problems.

Michael Ford mixes Spirits from Zoroastrianism with just about every pantheon he can think of and Luciferians don't seem to have a problem.

It's really up to you and what kind of bonds you've established with the spirits you work with.

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

Yeah, but with every spirit you summon, you've created a psychic bridge. Not that the human mind cannot handle it in general, but some need a limit. You don't have to evoke everyone under the sun if you don't want to, and it might be a wise choice.
So, in mixing pantheons, some simply will not get along with each other, as many still seem competitive or tribal in nature, and with those psychic bridges established, a skirmish in the mind may result.
If there seems to be no issue, go with the flow then.

 

[Jk666]

I get the strongest results from mixing the war deities of the different pantheon: Odin, tyr, Loki & because the Hebrew 1 is so peaceful I work exclusively with the qlipoths & the shadows & demons the sphiroths cast from the divine light

 

[Jk666]

From the Egyptian 1 Hourus, Seth I cherry pick them

 

[Roma]

In one of his books Zechariah Sitchin demonstrates pretty well that there is only one set of "gods" on the planet at a time - until the next round of the war in the heavens changes who are the occupiers

 

[Jk666]

@Roma how exactly a book can prove there’s only 1 set of gods if every land has its own gods?

every people has their own myths, gods/giants.

the gods in imo are just masks for forces of nature.

 

[Roma]

I found that reading the book was very useful

For example compare the brother-sister pairs of Osiris-Isis and Fuxi-Nuwa. Notice how many similarities are present in physical forms and contributions to civilization.

 

[Öwnchef]

Atu VI - The Lovers

 

[8Lou1]

i know some surinam knot magick, but eventually it all comes down to the humans working to combine, not on the pantheons.

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

I've noticed a lot of people pick patrons unlike themselves. Not realizing those like themselves carry their own unique powers, as well as common powers.
I can't base this opinion on that I've experienced this, it just came to mind.

 

[hungry_ghost]

I've noticed a lot of people pick patrons unlike themselves. Not realizing those like themselves carry their own unique powers, as well as common powers.
I can't base this opinion on that I've experienced this, it just came to mind.

There's a lot of reasons why it would appear that way. In shadow work the patron would represent a hidden aspect of the self. In Luciferianism it would be called a deific mask or latent power. There are many things that dwell within our subconscious that we're not aware of. The point is you could actually be just like the patron you picked out even if you're total opposites. The problem is you just don't know it yet.

 

[Yazata]

i know some surinam knot magick

Would you mind maybe writing a tutorial on that @8Lou1 ?

 

[8Lou1]

I would love to. my magick is more in the knowing where to step on a wave and leave the wave in time. The one im talking about is created by crystalline spiders.
Maybe they should call it weave magick as that fits better.

I will have to ask/prey for permission to write the specifics out.

 

[Roma]

ask/prey for permission

What a curious typo

"intr.v. preyed, prey·ing, preys
1. To hunt, catch, or eat as prey: Owls prey on mice.
2. To victimize or make a profit at someone else's expense: swindlers who prey upon the weak.
3. To plunder or pillage: Vikings preying on coastal settlements.
4. To exert a baneful or injurious effect: Remorse preyed on his mind."

 

[8Lou1]

Well, uhh tru. I'm used to living in a kill or be killed world. So there is a need to bow and ask certain beings and there is a need to prey on other beings to at least scare them to give me the words to type it out.

And as it is a weave thing, life needs to work along annd it just did, i just got an invitation to visit a surinam friend today.

Gotta love winti spirits.