Daily Application of Practices

[IllusiveOwl]

How do you apply your practices to your day-to-day lives? How do you use magic to enhance your results in the mundane world?

 

[David Wilson-Steer]

Everything we do or say, of course, is magic. It's being aware of that is what's important. I watch my words, I watch my thoughts, I surround myself with magical people. Whenever a bill comes in and the bank balance is a bit low I simply say to the universe "We'll be able to pay this when the time comes." Actually, that's what I used to say. I don't need to now.

The members of my group were talking about using magic for money and the general consensus was that it's easier to manifest stuff than money. I pointed out that money was really the province of demons; see John Dee's many unsuccessful attempts to persuade the angels to provide some cash. Also, the Abramelin states that cash is the province of demons. Now, many years ago, my Adept Mentor said to me "You should be able to snap your fingers and make a cup of coffee appear." And he could. So I thought, why shouldn't we be able to manifest enough cash that it sits there waiting to be used. So I thought I'd ask a demon. I couldn't think of which one to use so I just called 'any demon that could help me'. The next next day I manifested enough cash that I had to open a second bank account!

Magic is constantly there, around us. It's inexorable, it never stops. Once we've put it in motion it keeps going. So whatever situation we're in, we've created it and it will keep going until we do something about it. Mostly until we decide the situation must change.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

So I thought I'd ask a demon. I couldn't think of which one to use so I just called 'any demon that could help me'. The next next day I manifested enough cash that I had to open a second bank account!

What ritual did you use, if any? And were there ever consequences to the influx of cash?


I personally use magic daily to call up the energy I'll need for a given day, I use it in interracting with others, specifically energy work to get people's fixation, repulsion, and attraction. It never hurts getting your managers or proffessors addicted to the feel-good energy you feed into them! Everything else is on an as-needed basis, practice wise.

I also give offerings daily and meditate. I try to trance at least once a day but it's difficult at this stage to reliably switch-over daily.

 

[David Wilson-Steer]

I didn't use any ritual particularly, as you know, just about everything we do is a ritual in some way. I have come to the conclusion that when we talk to spirits that it's the elementals that reply, there are so many of them hanging around.

I simply sat and thought about the situation and then, in my mind, asked for a spirit that could help me. In my imagination I saw about three or four rows of figures all the same but they were very blurry and I couldn't see their faces. They looked like they were sitting in church pews or maybe a jury box. I asked them for help but also suggested that I didn't know what they could or should do to help. They didn't seem to respond or move or say anything so I thanked them for coming and dismissed them to go and fulfill the task. The next day the money manifested - actually, the next day I was told it was going to manifest - it took a couple of days to hit my bank account. And it's still manifesting.

No consequences except that I went out and immediately bought a new pair of jeans and a pair of shoes, which I needed. See, the bit I said about my Mentor telling me how to manifest a cup of coffee. Well, he and I and a whole bunch of people lived together for about six months and we didn't have any money and we'd simply decide every day what we wanted and it would manifest!

Have you read about Findhorn? Peter Caddy talks about how they used to manifest stuff. See, I believe this is all a Game and we choose how to play it. I believe it's all an Illusion. I'm not the first to come up with that idea. My Mentor taught me that and that's how the universe seems to work for me.

By the sounds of it you're doing the right things & your attitude is certainly that of an Adept. The definition of a magician is some one that is 'at Cause, Knowingly, and at Will over Space, Time, Form & Effect.' Don't worry about trance states; they are useful of course. Just 'know' you are making it all happen.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

he and I and a whole bunch of people lived together for about six months and we didn't have any money and we'd simply decide every day what we wanted and it would manifest

That sounds like a very interesting living situation. Was this a cabal or sangha of some kind? Or just a random group of people who drank the same vibe?

Could you elaborate on the cup of coffee example? Did he literally materialize it, or did circumstances bring a cup of coffee to him?

I believe this is all a Game and we choose how to play it. I believe it's all an Illusion.

If the game itself is an illusion, that would make the rules of the game illusory as well. Being free of the rules, that'd give you some advantages for sure. Human History is a delusional, petty psychodrama, and the events on the worldstage today are just as ludicrously insane as they were a thousand years ago. Nationality, religion, political ideology, yes its all a big complicated game and I actively do not engage in it to avoid being made some invisible hand's pawn.

If the universe is a game, how is freedom found? In not playing?

By the sounds of it you're doing the right things & your attitude is certainly that of an Adept.

Thank you.

Don't worry about trance states; they are useful of course. Just 'know' you are making it all happen.

This is a big topic of interest for me personally. I have had firsthand OBE trance experiences and exploring the non-matetial "electromagnetic" realm seems very valuable to me.

 

[David Wilson-Steer]

I agree that exploring trance states is very valuable. Being aware that we're are always in some sort of trance state, I think, is important too.

The place was a theatre workshop set up with the intention of making a film. The film was based on the following (I've had to redact some information - there was a lot more)

"... According to some of the teachings passed on to every child …. the universe is a theatre within which the gods perform a divine comedy for their own entertainment. The children …. sing songs about the gods and about the total theatre show which has been running since the beginning of time and which is scheduled to run for ever.

The gods know that it is all a show, according to some of these songs, but, being also the audience that watches the show, they prefer not to maintain a constant full awareness of the 'real' nature of the illusion that entertains them. …. a central theme of this comedy; the eternal attempts by the gods to conquer the physical universe which, being basically an illusion of their own creation, remains, at the resolution of every scene, constantly, tantalisingly, out of reach... ….”

The cup of coffee example was interesting. For me it always happened that someone would bring me a coffee. Whatever we decided to manifest would happen usually within half an hour. That included things like cameras and film, food and so on. I asked him once why I'd never seen him manifest a coffee instantly. "Because you don't believe it will happen that way." Which was true. But magically, things should manifest instantly. I'm getting better at it, for me, now, it usually happens within five minutes - depending on what I want.

p.s. as far as I know, the film was never finished. Although I went there to hone my skills as a writer, there was so much magic to learn that the film, for me, became unimportant. When I left the place, I became a professional writer; including being chief scriptwriter with a production company. Magic is inexorable ... once you start it in motion it never stops.

 

[NightWatchman95]

the more i heard about people talking about this shallow form of manifestation, the more it think this is just a very pretentious form of mindfulness. if i cant snap my fingers and make lighting strike twice, its not really worth the effort beyond a fleeting placebo.

 

[David Wilson-Steer]

the more i heard about people talking about this shallow form of manifestation, the more it think this is just a very pretentious form of mindfulness. if i cant snap my fingers and make lighting strike twice, its not really worth the effort beyond a fleeting placebo.

What is a 'shallow form of manifestation'? Surely manifestation is manifestation. I don't think I could snap my fingers and make lightning strike once never mind twice; although I have made it rain by calling on the Aztec god Tlaloc. If you believe you have to perform long, involved rituals then that's how it works for you. For me, and for many other people, it works instantly. But then, I'm an Adept. I spent many years painfully working my way up the Tree to Tiphareth. For those of us that have got there, magic is constant, instantaneous & inexorable.

 

[NightWatchman95]

What is a 'shallow form of manifestation'? Surely manifestation is manifestation. I don't think I could snap my fingers and make lightning strike once never mind twice; although I have made it rain by calling on the Aztec god Tlaloc. If you believe you have to perform long, involved rituals then that's how it works for you. For me, and for many other people, it works instantly. But then, I'm an Adept. I spent many years painfully working my way up the Tree to Tiphareth. For those of us that have got there, magic is constant, instantaneous & inexorable.

none of that will bring back my dead uncle. fuck you.

 

[Sabbatius]

How do you apply your practices to your day-to-day lives? How do you use magic to enhance your results in the mundane world?

Coffee.
My day, every day, begins at 4:30am. I maintain what would be defined as a "hearth fire." This needs to be maintained and never put out, all for my practice for my family and tribe.

Outside of my tribal practices, I also maintain an ascetic pursuit where I practice the readings and Prayers of the Hours, strictly followed by Rassophores, Stavrophores and Schema Monks. This is difficult due to work, but I try to accomplish what I am able to.

Magic is, in my case, coffee-dark and bitter, like my thoughts.

Post automatically merged: Mar 3, 2025

The members of my group were talking about using magic for money and the general consensus was that it's easier to manifest stuff than money. I pointed out that money was really the province of demons; see John Dee's many unsuccessful attempts to persuade the angels to provide some cash. Also, the Abramelin states that cash is the province of demons. Now, many years ago, my Adept Mentor said to me "You should be able to snap your fingers and make a cup of coffee appear." And he could. So I thought, why shouldn't we be able to manifest enough cash that it sits there waiting to be used. So I thought I'd ask a demon. I couldn't think of which one to use so I just called 'any demon that could help me'. The next next day I manifested enough cash that I had to open a second bank account!

Manifest as in ex nihilo? Or manipulating/changing reality via cause and will?

 

[David Wilson-Steer]

Coffee.
My day, every day, begins at 4:30am. I maintain what would be defined as a "hearth fire." This needs to be maintained and never put out, all for my practice for my family and tribe.

Outside of my tribal practices, I also maintain an ascetic pursuit where I practice the readings and Prayers of the Hours, strictly followed by Rassophores, Stavrophores and Schema Monks. This is difficult due to work, but I try to accomplish what I am able to.

Magic is, in my case, coffee-dark and bitter, like my thoughts.

Post automatically merged: Mar 3, 2025

Manifest as in ex nihilo? Or manipulating/changing reality via cause and will?

That's an interesting question. I work on the definition that the magician is at cause ... but my view of the world as illusion would suggest ex nihilo, if I understand what ex nihilo means. When I was much younger I thought, briefly, of an ascetic approach which I dabbled with but not seriously enough. I'm impressed by your dedication.