Do you meditate during storms?

[lumineth Realm Lord]

As the title says.

 

[Lemongrass00]

No

 

[Rowena]

Yes

 

[Asteriskos]

Yes

 

[TwinFox]

Typically no. My previous Sifu warned against it, especially if cultivating.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

Yes. You should be able to meditate at any point, because otherwise something outside of yourself is evidently affecting you. The goal of meditation is to flow and harmonize with reality, regardless of whatever is happening. You should be able to meditate even when someone puts a knife in you.

 

[Asteriskos]

Yes. You should be able to meditate at any point, because otherwise something outside of yourself is evidently affecting you. The goal of meditation is to flow and harmonize with reality, regardless of whatever is happening. You should be able to meditate even when someone puts a knife in you.

Only if you're Bruce Lee and you're feeling Charitable that day!

 

[IllusiveOwl]

Only if you're Bruce Lee and you're feeling Charitable that day!

There isn't really a difference between true Equanimity and basic meditation, you don't have to be sitting on a pillow alone in some cave to meditate, in fact the best way to strengthen your inner-peace-muscles is to be equanimous in a disturbing or disrupting environment, like an alley way when a Triad puts his blade in you.

 

[Asteriskos]

There isn't really a difference between true Equanimity and basic meditation, you don't have to be sitting on a pillow alone in some cave to meditate, in fact the best way to strengthen your inner-peace-muscles is to be equanimous in a disturbing or disrupting environment, like an alley way when a Triad puts his blade in you.

I personally challenge You to meditate if some random nutcase puts a knife in you! Please be sure to have the Video available here so that we all may gasp in Awe while simultaneously uttering: Yep, he/she was Right!

 

[IllusiveOwl]

I personally challenge You to meditate if some random nutcase puts a knife in you! Please be sure to have the Video available here so that we all may gasp in Awe while simultaneously uttering: Yep, he/she was Right!

I'll do you one better, google "Monk burns himself to death and is super chill about it throughout the whole process".

 

[Asteriskos]

I'll do you one better, google "Monk burns himself to death and is super chill about it throughout the whole process".

Old Hat! I've seen it more than once, though I've forgotten just what he was protesting? And... I'm not convinced he was all that super chill and not thinking: "Bad Idea, duh". The Principle that you're touting here is Idealistic. I certainly don't say it's Impossible, what I'm asking is can You perform what you're you're proselytizing here? And... in case you may not have noticed, doing something like that (either one) burning yourself or soliciting getting yourself Stabbed radically alters the direction of "this" incarnation too. It's Not just business as usual the next day, IF You LIVE?

 

[Lilliphim]

Not usually, but there’s a lot of storms where I am so sometimes it coincides. But the last time there was a hurricane here I did meditate and plan to do so in future ones.

 

[Lemongrass00]

You should be able to meditate even when someone puts a knife in you.

Care to demonstrate?

 

[Asteriskos]

Yes

I shall qualify that. When there's a thunderstorm, I meditate "upon the thunderstorm" because I'm friends with the elementals!

 

[IllusiveOwl]

Care to demonstrate?

Come over and put it in me

"Bad Idea, duh". The Principle that you're touting here is Idealistic. I certainly don't say it's Impossible, what I'm asking is can You perform what you're you're proselytizing here?

Well we simply don't know what he was thinking, but it's powerfully disrespectful and undercuts a man's purposeful self-immolation to project your own perspective and weakness onto him. I'm sure if he regretted his decision, it would be obvious. I wouldn't call it idealistic, I would call it the natural end to a meditative practice. The level of growth you attain is dependent on how small of a cage your beliefs put you in, this applies to meditation too.

I've only been meditating for about four years, I'm good at overcoming emotional and physical pain in general, and I'm successful at maintaining Zazen is busy public spaces, but just because I'm aware of the moon I'm shooting for doesn't mean I'm already there yet, or that my not being on the moon disproves it's validity.

 

[heavysm]

I will say...that I meditate even if the weather is a little odd, or rough...so that would definitely include stormy weather. I had to learn this and force this, as it tends to disrupt even daily errands and how I communicate to other people.

 

[HoldAll]

I would definitely go with @IllusiveOwl here and say yes. I once read somewhere that meditating means "ceasing to struggle", which implies that you calmly accept any occurence of phenomenon around you without offering resistance. Impatiently waiting for ideal conditions, in this case nice weather, may be a sign that you haven't really understood what meditation is about (and a symptom of procrastination to boot). So you cease struggling with the storm, the heat, the police sirens, your quarreling neighbours, and of course you also stop struggling with your inability to cease struggling too.

Oh well.. that's at least the idea. Yesterday I confess I temporarily stopped my washing machine before meditation practice so you could say I'm not there yet.

 

[Asteriskos]

Come over and put it in me



Well we simply don't know what he was thinking, but it's powerfully disrespectful and undercuts a man's purposeful self-immolation to project your own perspective and weakness onto him. I'm sure if he regretted his decision, it would be obvious. I wouldn't call it idealistic, I would call it the natural end to a meditative practice. The level of growth you attain is dependent on how small of a cage your beliefs put you in, this applies to meditation too.

I've only been meditating for about four years, I'm good at overcoming emotional and physical pain in general, and I'm successful at maintaining Zazen is busy public spaces, but just because I'm aware of the moon I'm shooting for doesn't mean I'm already there yet, or that my not being on the moon disproves it's validity.

The particular monk you mention, if memory serves was protesting Something? I encourage anyone who feels "called" to experience the Wonders of the "Monastic" life, don't forget to Write and Send Pictures!

I've Always admired those that smile and wink at me as they show me the "Tiger and Dragon" burned into the inner sides of their forearms!

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I would definitely go with @IllusiveOwl here and say yes. I once read somewhere that meditating means "ceasing to struggle", which implies that you calmly accept any occurence of phenomenon around you without offering resistance. Impatiently waiting for ideal conditions, in this case nice weather, may be a sign that you haven't really understood what meditation is about (and a symptom of procrastination to boot). So you cease struggling with the storm, the heat, the police sirens, your quarreling neighbours, and of course you also stop struggling with your inability to cease struggling too.

Oh well.. that's at least the idea. Yesterday I confess I temporarily stopped my washing machine before meditation practice so you could say I'm not there yet.

The only Form of Meditation that has any validity for Me is Discursive Meditation. I get pretty DEEP into it too, no timer or alarm clock has a chance. "One man's beer is another mans suds"! There have been Other discussions before about this here as well. This appears to be another lap around the block in my opinion. Meditation is something that Can be one of the most Useful tools a magician can have in the toolbox. I don't pretend to tell other people what the "best" practice is for them. Once you attain "no mind", well then you have No Mind, or "Universal Mind" if that
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Come over and put it in me



Well we simply don't know what he was thinking, but it's powerfully disrespectful and undercuts a man's purposeful self-immolation to project your own perspective and weakness onto him. I'm sure if he regretted his decision, it would be obvious. I wouldn't call it idealistic, I would call it the natural end to a meditative practice. The level of growth you attain is dependent on how small of a cage your beliefs put you in, this applies to meditation too.

I've only been meditating for about four years, I'm good at overcoming emotional and physical pain in general, and I'm successful at maintaining Zazen is busy public spaces, but just because I'm aware of the moon I'm shooting for doesn't mean I'm already there yet, or that my not being on the moon disproves it's validity.

@IllusiveOwl.

My "heresy" really tied a knot in your knickers didn't it? Where's that Impassive demeanor that Nothing can Pierce? Nothing I've said should even phase YOU if you're telling us Your Form of meditation is what you SAY it is? Sanctimonious, that's what I think it is, and Yes, that's MY opinion!

 

[Dascent]

When it serves a purpose, yes.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

My "heresy" really tied a knot in your knickers didn't it? Where's that Impassive demeanor that Nothing can Pierce?

You're making yourself out to be much more effective than you actually are, just because I'm pointing out your childishness and lack of taste for a very real man's death doesn't mean I'm angered or upset, only SkullTraill can manage to twist my knickers.

You aren't even quoting me, I never used the word heresy. Overall I think my message was impassive and neutral, you yourself are just upset by the contents, believe me I edited it quite a bit to hold back even my impassive snark to avoid getting a PM from the mods. I have to point out that I'm incredibly disappointed with this conversation, rather than discuss the ideas I've laid out, you've chosen to try and attack my character to undermine what I've said. And frankly your opinion is delusional, it isn't worthy getting upset over because I simply don't respect it.

The only Form of Meditation that has any validity for Me is Discursive Meditation.

Meditation is something that Can be one of the most Useful tools a magician can have in the toolbox.

You don't understand meditation, so your perspective is warped. It's a good tool but it's also foundational, you can even use the words "meditation" and "trance" interchangeably because both require dedicated focus. If you cannot control your mind or thoughts according to your will, you will have a hard time getting effective results and it can actually be very dangerous not to have this type of self-control at higher level Work.

I've Always admired those that smile and wink at me as they show me the "Tiger and Dragon" burned into the inner sides of their forearms!

What does this even mean.