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Do you think Trump is a practitioner ?

zamradiel

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You mean Erzulie Dantor, I believe. Petwo aspect, tied directly to the Haitian Revolution.

As for the idea of “cursing” someone like a sitting or former POTUS... think of it like trying to redirect the current from a high-voltage transmission line with a copper wire from a desk lamp. The man is a system node, not a socket.

Energy at that scale is bidirectional; it flows through every polarity - worship, hatred, devotion, disgust. To move the needle, you’d need an equivalent current of will and alignment, not just emotion. Otherwise, it’s wishful thinking with incense.


Do I think a group of pink hair witchtok account practitioners could successfully curse trump if given an advanced grimoire ? Possibly.

Erzulie Freda being invoked by Haitian Vodou High Priestess Cecile Fatiman and Dutty Boukman to incite the Haitian Revolution. Many of the french on the island actually died of yellow fever before being killed by Haitian revolutionists.

That being said, a majority of curses and hexes don't get granted because people aren't willing to fullfill the exchange necessary to get the petition granted.
 

supremecoyote

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You mean Erzulie Dantor, I believe. Petwo aspect, tied directly to the Haitian Revolution.

As for the idea of “cursing” someone like a sitting or former POTUS... think of it like trying to redirect the current from a high-voltage transmission line with a copper wire from a desk lamp. The man is a system node, not a socket.

Energy at that scale is bidirectional; it flows through every polarity - worship, hatred, devotion, disgust. To move the needle, you’d need an equivalent current of will and alignment, not just emotion. Otherwise, it’s wishful thinking with incense.
Thank you !! I meant to put Dantor but it was late, I was tired, and my brain was fried. I personally work with Erzulie Freda lol.

But yeah I would have to agree, that's why I haven't even bothered putting any of my own energy into "cursing/hexing" him because I understand that it would take a lot more than just me stewing at my altar by myself to do anything tangible. I also trust in the idea of what comes up must go down and I know he'll be dealt with in due time. Whether by some divine intervention, natural causes or human intervention.

Like you said, the man is like a vortex of siphoning energy. Similar to a tornado who destroys anything in its path regardless of how you feel about it. Self deification if you were able to turn yourself into a living breathing natural disaster.

I agree that you would need an equal force of energy to stop somebody like Trump, if you were an opposing witch / magician.


If a hurricane hits the coast, does thoughts and prayers stop the hurricane? no.
( This is how I look at it )

But all storms have to end somehow. And a lot of us will be here to help rebuild communities and fix the mess he left. Instead of focusing my anger on hating Trump and putting curses on him, It's much more productive to put that energy into grounding, cleansing and helping communities affected. Because I can't control his actions or the government's, I can only control my own.

I did find it interesting with his comment when he said " I would like to get into heaven", that's kinda what got me thinking about what's going on with him spiritually. Because what an interesting thing to say, given everything he's done since the 70s.

Which is why I started this thread if anyone else had similar thoughts
 

zamradiel

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I completely agree with that. The part about helping rebuild after the storm really stuck with me. It’s easy to get caught in outrage, but turning that energy toward healing and grounding feels like the real path forward. That’s the kind of work that actually restores something.

But all storms have to end somehow. And a lot of us will be here to help rebuild communities and fix the mess he left. Instead of focusing my anger on hating Trump and putting curses on him, It's much more productive to put that energy into grounding, cleansing and helping communities affected. Because I can't control his actions or the government's, I can only control my own.

I did find it interesting with his comment when he said " I would like to get into heaven", that's kinda what got me thinking about what's going on with him spiritually. Because what an interesting thing to say, given everything he's done since the 70s.

Which is why I started this thread if anyone else had similar thoughts
 

Mystic_friend

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I have my thoughts.... something to do with Epstein on the Island and potentially a pact with Moloch. It would make more sense for him to have a pact with SOMETHING rather than just pure luck to go from 34 time felon to King. I've heard musings of Hitler dabbling in black magick as well. So idk , I don't think i'm far off. I'll do some divination and post my results in the chat.
ya all politicians and rich ppl are practitioners well most rich people are, the ones who aren't are born into old money and their money does not last after it goes into their hands but the ones with very very old money 100% are practioners
 
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