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[Help] Does practicing dark magic, or traditions, have an effect on one's soul or afterlife?

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Neither throwing curses utilizing 'demons' nor doing healing petitions to 'saints' have much effect on your afterlife prospects. For most people -including the vast majority of occultists- you're getting recycled and 'you' cease to exist (the constituent parts of you go on into different identities, which explains some past life memories). You need to really do some serious self-development to become a self-directed power in your own right post-mortem.

And concomitantly there is no soul in the sense used by the generic major slave religions.
 

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Like anything 'There i a price to pay' as they say. Most of the mainstream faith sytems believe a soul can be compromised, even sold. Literature provides such examples as in 'Faust'. How badly do you want something in the here and now? What will you give for that?
 

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If the intent of the spell you are casting is violating your personal integrity, then yes. Absolutely.
But the magick didn't cause the corruption - your decision to violate your own personal standard of integrity did.

It is not the magick. It is you.
 

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Hi I'm new here and I have an opinion about this. Its just an opinion though everyone entitled to thier own opinions based on thier own expierences.

Bit of background I'm kind of between practices right now and don't have really any one way. I'm just learning so taking the information I have then deciding which one I want to practice more or less of.

I feel like life is consequence enough and that a forever or maybe just temporary soul punishment is not great to me. I mean I live and if you act not great then people don't like you or you feel guilt or both.

So if their trying to teach the souls i.e. through suffering why not just literally teach the souls. Like they could have teachers. Why are they doing that? I'm sure they might have a reason probably for that so just get to the root reason and negotiate? But it would be really hard. Like most morals in media is do not make a deal because I'm guessing it's hard to make a deal that benefits both parties.

I'm just thinking here because I have anxiety and I like to have a plan for any situation I find myself.
 

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I'm just thinking here because I have anxiety and I like to have a plan for any situation I find myself.
Universal plan is easy - learn to adapt and to improvise. That will get you through most if not all situations.
 

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Thank you for the advice. I should rejoin the improv place to learn how to improvise better. Its the best option I think I have currently.

It was a very fun experience. Hopefully I can make time for it again.
 

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Let me speak to you from the heart, and from the long experience I’ve gathered in Eastern sciences—which have taught me that purification and grounding are not just slogans, but the very essence of survival. When we discuss "Dark Magic" or collaborating with demonic entities for selfish, worldly gains, we are talking about a path where one imposes their will on others, but at the cost of losing what is most precious. In my cultural and religious background, the Creator cannot be removed from the equation; dealing with these entities is seen as a corruption of the soul’s clarity. But beyond any sermon, look at the reality of the field: these entities are not obedient servants; they are inherently deceptive manipulators who prey on human vanity and unrealistic dreams. Ask yourselves honestly: which practitioner has actually gained the vast golden treasures promised in the ancient grimoires? The truth is, these entities do not grant you rank or power unless they intend to make you a slave in their own machine.

I see the "Prince of this World" today manipulating humanity through the veils of modern media and consumption, driving the soul toward collapse and the sale of the self for hollow fame. In the world of magic, this path literally erodes the soul. A practitioner who drowns in curses and malice lives without true protection, trapped in parasitic attachments that gnaw at their core, no matter how much they pretend to be solid. However, let me share a truth with you: no demon can truly "buy" your soul. Those blood-signed contracts are nothing more than human and historical inventions used to terrify the masses; the soul belongs to its Creator alone. If these entities had the power to create a soul, they wouldn't need a contract to own it. The real danger after death lies in "delegation." By collaborating with them, you choose to become a partner in their work and their fate. The price isn't just "karma"; it is a finality where you share their station in the afterlife—not because they will torture you, but because you will be with them in the same density and darkness.

In the end, remember that one is inevitably affected by their surroundings. If you walk the path of darkness with manipulative entities, do not expect to become anything other than a part of that world. Frequent evocations drive away the luminous and angelic presence from your life. As a Bishop once said at a wedding I attended—words that stayed with me deeply: "You cannot negotiate at two tables: the table of the Lord and the table of the Devil." Over time, you will find that your soul adopts the habits of the dark world; your judgment will be clouded, and you will find yourself growing in greed or cruelty. This journey has a heavy price that the practitioner will pay, no matter how clever they think they are at the start. This is the truth I believe in... what is it that you believe in?
Literally the best reply I ever heard to this question.
 

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That depends on one’s concept of “dark” is. There are certain pacts/practices within certain lineages of traditions that will have an impact.

For example, there’s a pact with Ferrabraz (a less known entity in the English speaking world) for making you very difficult to kill through physical means. A bottle is created as the recipient of several elements of the pact. If you don’t destroy the bottle before you die, Ferrabraz will collect you in the afterlife, before any other entity has the chance to.

There are several other similar examples.
 

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connecting with angelic spirits and entities requires fasting, physical and moral purity, and a reduction in food.
In many solomonic grimoires is required also sexual abstinence..before doing rituals not only for angels but also for demons!
Ok, for contacting angels fasting and no sex 3 days or even 7-9 days before ..but why this is required also when contacting demons?
 

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In many solomonic grimoires is required also sexual abstinence..before doing rituals not only for angels but also for demons!
Ok, for contacting angels fasting and no sex 3 days or even 7-9 days before ..but why this is required also when contacting demons?
I am not all too familiar with the Solomonic grimiores. (I probably should take a gander after this long) However, I would assume that it is to keep you at a "pure" state so that you can more easily summon and command the demons in the name of God. I am aware that was what Solomon aimed to do, so that is my best speculation of why.
 

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There are complex interactions involving "vibratory levels" in all forms of "energy", mechanical, electrical, psychic. Dark - Light; High - Low; Good - Bad forms can and do affect each other, often in ways non-engineers find surprising!

The question of the "soul" though is a good one!

And concomitantly there is no soul in the sense used by the generic major slave religions.

Peter Carroll would likely agree with this statement when he originally wrote Liber Null, he might have a different opinion now?
I'm curious about others opinions of that statement too within in our "demographic"?
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You need to really do some serious self-development to become a self-directed power in your own right post-mortem.
And I forgot to add (IMO) that Iamblichus would likely agree with this statement?
 
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