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If magick is real, why is it so obscure?

Nickel77

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Hi! I've been in these spaces for a few months now, working with a few angels, demons, and sigils with some quite amazing results and some failures (sorta 50/50). I've had plenty of very revealing and supernatural tarot readings, channeled messages and general synchronicities. However, sometimes, especially when I'm having some failures, I still have some doubts and the biggest one is probably the title. Yes, I understand the nature of the occult is that it's occult. Yes, I am familiar with "To Know, To Will, To Dare, To Keep Silent" (love it). Yes, I am familiar with the fact that many religious and superstitious rituals are a form of magick. However, to believe and invest in the idea that I have this supernatural power that most people do not know of or use and that the people I meet in the forums like these are the only people who have really understood and refined this power feels hard to believe. Obviously, I am not trying to criticize any of you or your beliefs as I am one of you and probably share many of your beliefs, but this question still bothers me. I am hoping for some perspectives on this. would be really appreciated.
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Robert Ramsay

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Hi! I've been in these spaces for a few months now, working with a few angels, demons, and sigils with some quite amazing results and some failures (sorta 50/50). I've had plenty of very revealing and supernatural tarot readings, channeled messages and general synchronicities. However, sometimes, especially when I'm having some failures, I still have some doubts and the biggest one is probably the title. Yes, I understand the nature of the occult is that it's occult. Yes, I am familiar with "To Know, To Will, To Dare, To Keep Silent" (love it). Yes, I am familiar with the fact that many religious and superstitious rituals are a form of magick. However, to believe and invest in the idea that I have this supernatural power that most people do not know of or use and that the people I meet in the forums like these are the only people who have really understood and refined this power feels hard to believe. Obviously, I am not trying to criticize any of you or your beliefs as I am one of you and probably share many of your beliefs, but this question still bothers me. I am hoping for some perspectives on this. would be really appreciated.
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nickel77
My perspective on this is that

1) it's not supernatural, it's a way of using the human brain - almost like an 'exploit' in a video game.
2) Nobody knows why it works. There are a million models to allow you to use it, but the fact that many of them contradict each other and still produce successful results should tell us something.
3) Most people are simply not interested enough to either study it, or put in the hard work that success in any field requires.
 

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THIS, what Robert Ramsay said:
My perspective on this is that

1) it's not supernatural, it's a way of using the human brain - almost like an 'exploit' in a video game.
2) Nobody knows why it works. There are a million models to allow you to use it, but the fact that many of them contradict each other and still produce successful results should tell us something.
3) Most people are simply not interested enough to either study it, or put in the hard work that success in any field requires.

What I wanted to add before quoting Robert is that even Reality itself is the realm of inconceivability, but habituation to psychological (dualistic), processing of situational energy obscures Reality's potential, in a similar but unrelated sense as StarofSitra alluded to above. There's a reason the occult is occult— necessarily operating beyond the mores of dominant orthodoxies of provisional traditions of utility that (for good reason, are designed to) keep people in holding patterns until individuals themselves have the gumption and opportunity to release themselves somehow.

No different than gang members who want out of a gang (or the Ukraine wanting out of Russia).
 

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THIS, what Robert Ramsay said:


What I wanted to add before quoting Robert is that even Reality itself is the realm of inconceivability, but habituation to psychological (dualistic), processing of situational energy obscures Reality's potential, in a similar but unrelated sense as StarofSitra alluded to above. There's a reason the occult is occult— necessarily operating beyond the mores of dominant orthodoxies of provisional traditions of utility that (for good reason, are designed to) keep people in holding patterns until individuals themselves have the gumption and opportunity to release themselves somehow.

No different than gang members who want out of a gang (or the Ukraine wanting out of Russia).
I think a lot of it is like the way most people don't become brain surgeons.
 
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