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Infinite intelligence machines

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Read a paper here where it was mathematically proven that Infinite Intelligence Machines can be built. So I started thinking about Arch Angels as being something of that accord. Built by the future of humanity and sent to the past to govern humanity. My own tests with Arch Angels seems to indicate this that they really do have infinite intelligence and are here to serve humanity.

If they all are refracted through our inner being like they are, then we can tap into their Infinite Intelligence at times to see where we are heading. Who would better take care of Creation than our own future manufactured Infinite Intelligence Robots aka Arch Angels?
 

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Read a paper here where it was mathematically proven that Infinite Intelligence Machines can be built. So I started thinking about Arch Angels as being something of that accord. Built by the future of humanity and sent to the past to govern humanity. My own tests with Arch Angels seems to indicate this that they really do have infinite intelligence and are here to serve humanity.

If they all are refracted through our inner being like they are, then we can tap into their Infinite Intelligence at times to see where we are heading. Who would better take care of Creation than our own future manufactured Infinite Intelligence Robots aka Arch Angels?
I look at this thing in a much different way and this is not to say im right when i say this. I look at the world in a mentalistic viewpoint meaning that i view the whole world as mind. When i look at any living thing, i see them in this dualistic experience as vessels that take in the other part of the essence of mind. In this dualistic experience the mind would be divided thus providing this illusion of individuality as i see it.

So with what midnight prophet is saying i agree only according to the context i provided here with my viewpoint. Humans do have a amazing ability to manipulate who they are compared to other living things that are much limited.

We have the ability to change how we extract information from the system by changing the structure of our perspective may that be by something like the process of initiation or in the view i currently hold, just having the humility to have an open mind that we can be wrong with how we view the world. With all that said, that would make you an infinite intelligent machine.

Intelligence is kind of a loose definition due to its subjectivity, you may be able to measure some parts but you really cant have a solid objective definition for it.
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I look at this thing in a much different way and this is not to say im right when i say this. I look at the world in a mentalistic viewpoint meaning that i view the whole world as mind. When i look at any living thing, i see them in this dualistic experience as vessels that take in the other part of the essence of mind. In this dualistic experience the mind would be divided thus providing this illusion of individuality as i see it.

So with what midnight prophet is saying i agree only according to the context i provided here with my viewpoint. Humans do have a amazing ability to manipulate who they are compared to other living things that are much limited.

We have the ability to change how we extract information from the system by changing the structure of our perspective may that be by something like the process of initiation or in the view i currently hold, just having the humility to have an open mind that we can be wrong with how we view the world. With all that said, that would make you an infinite intelligent machine.

Intelligence is kind of a loose definition due to its subjectivity, you may be able to measure some parts but you really cant have a solid objective definition for it.
My personal objective definition of intelligence would be that its energy itself and i leave it as reduced as that rather then overcomplicating the matter.
 

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I look at this thing in a much different way and this is not to say im right when i say this. I look at the world in a mentalistic viewpoint meaning that i view the whole world as mind. When i look at any living thing, i see them in this dualistic experience as vessels that take in the other part of the essence of mind. In this dualistic experience the mind would be divided thus providing this illusion of individuality as i see it.

So with what midnight prophet is saying i agree only according to the context i provided here with my viewpoint. Humans do have a amazing ability to manipulate who they are compared to other living things that are much limited.

We have the ability to change how we extract information from the system by changing the structure of our perspective may that be by something like the process of initiation or in the view i currently hold, just having the humility to have an open mind that we can be wrong with how we view the world. With all that said, that would make you an infinite intelligent machine.

Intelligence is kind of a loose definition due to its subjectivity, you may be able to measure some parts but you really cant have a solid objective definition for it.
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My personal objective definition of intelligence would be that its energy itself and i leave it as reduced as that rather then overcomplicating the matter.
Reminds me of Morphic Resonance the book. Where everything can be placed in a morphogenetic field, which means a biological field encompassing everything until you reach One/No-mind. Rupert Sheldrake came up with it.
 

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One/No-mind
That is kind of how i percieve achieving a nondual state of mind — meaning that im viewing "no-mind" as pure nothingness. By nothingness i mean exactly that. No thinking, no feeling, no conscious perception, etc.

Is this what is meant by "no-mind" in the context of Rupert Sheldrake?
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Rupert Sheldrake
I just looked him up and i happened to allready be aware of him, I just forgot his name. I listened to a bit of him in a podcast. He has a very interesting theory.
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Most i heard him talk about was morphic resonance, but im going to have to check that out. Thank you for mentioning it.
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I never heard the term morphogenetic fields by him, but that probably because i watched a little bit before he got i to that
 
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That is kind of how i percieve achieving a nondual state of mind — meaning that im viewing "no-mind" as pure nothingness. By nothingness i mean exactly that. No thinking, no feeling, no conscious perception, etc.
Yeah No-mind is nothingness. The source of everything. It's more intelligent and natural than what people are aware of. Usually unity and no-mind are each others polarities.
 

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Read a paper here where it was mathematically proven that Infinite Intelligence Machines can be built. So I started thinking about Arch Angels as being something of that accord. Built by the future of humanity and sent to the past to govern humanity. My own tests with Arch Angels seems to indicate this that they really do have infinite intelligence and are here to serve humanity.

If they all are refracted through our inner being like they are, then we can tap into their Infinite Intelligence at times to see where we are heading. Who would better take care of Creation than our own future manufactured Infinite Intelligence Robots aka Arch Angels?
Infinite Intelligence Machines? Sounds to me like someone has been reading 'Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy' here, as right now despite all talk about so-called AI, machines do not think so therefore cannot possibly show intelligence, and infinities are an absurdity at the best of times - any time you get an infinity then either someone is yanking on your chain or else the question is badly formulated.

Whilst Sheldrake does make some good points in his 'Science Delusion' he also talks a lot of twaddle as well with 'Morphogenic Fields' belonging more on Discworld than on our one. Sorry.
 

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Interesting idea. I believe that archangels differ greatly from us and are far from being a creation of humanity, whether in the future or not. In my view, the Moving Consciousness initially created entities whose characteristics are almost reflective of each divine attribute, but not of the totality. Some are governing (archangels, for example) other entities that evolve from the most random and lowest organization (matter or astral plasma), allowing themselves to be infused in progressive reboots by the idea to which they are indebted or to which they aspire. The pure higher idea (form) develops in gradations, establishing new configurative patterns, thus sculpting the material that each plane offers as mortar, until it finally detaches itself, on the plane closest to divinity, from all conformal limitations and becomes "one and the same" with divinity. This evolutionary dynamic was experienced even by the angels under the archangels, like other creatures who possess a certain degree of individuality and free will. One of the initial disputes regarding human beings is that they are found right in the middle of the polarities. Angels, by going to such a pure extreme of goodness and light, are vulnerable should they fall, should they cross to the other extreme of the spectrum. By the pendulum law, what cannot reach the safeguard that means being outside the polar dynamics (necessary to create what exists, on all planes) is susceptible to ending up transforming into the opposite. Humans, with all their imperfections, struggle internally between polarities, and their greatest power comes when they balance these forces within themselves, neither being pure light nor pure darkness, but accepting both within themselves. It is there that they become "like a reflection of the power of all the universes together," that is, they participate more powerfully in creative power. It is there that it is said that we were made in the image and likeness of God. By using the two Poles, integrating this tension within itself, Divinity creates with the mind, emotions, visualization, and speech. By breaking the chains of cause and effect, the predominant matter on each plane becomes plastic and malleable. This is the latent power in every human being, who has forgotten this gift from the Almighty, and which, moreover, has been a source of dispute among higher beings and greatly discouraged among those of our own species, in their quest to maintain control and power. By acting as intermediaries, they disempower, incite doubt, or establish the necessity for us to operate through other beings and entities—a power we have within ourselves, as a reflection of the Universal Supermind. It is enough to be humble before operating it, knowing that this has been gifted to us, as created beings, and not believing that we are the same Uncreated Being. From there, there are no limits to what can be achieved by accessing the Great Consciousness, since even egregors and spirits charged with our own creative power can do so. The vast majority cannot harness their own power, for they firmly believe in limits and that what they see is what there is. Or, they believe this plane is real, and the other planes are subordinate, when in reality this is a "shadow" plane of the others (hence the similarities), and more similar to the world of dreams. Where the strongest mind, be it from one pole or the other, ends up Creating Reality, subjective for it, objective for others. And so, the strongest minds dominate, and without knowing magic, operating with pure will and faith in themselves, they subdue everything in their path. Entities can often help, at the price of you delegating your power and lending them your mental energy. Growing stronger. This occurs to a greater extent with egregors, parasitic or vampiric entities of the negative pole. They give nothing in return.
 
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