Moderately More Catholic and "Abrahamist" Grimoire Evocation

[MorganBlack]

Hear, hear! Totally agreed too many have a dry intellectual approach probably from being inflicted with an overactive, hyper-categorizing left-hemisphere. If the universe is a quantum reality that reorders itself based on the "story" you tell - which I think it is - then you must treat your own life as a laboratory.

In my Daimonic-Neoplatonic view, these are all stories that take on a quantum reality of their own. It does not mean they are "not true." Read Patrick Harpur and Bernardo Kastrup for more discussions on this front. Harpur’s work on the Anima Mundi (World Soul) suggests, and I also agree, that there is a third space between "Matter" and "Mind." This is the Daimonic Realm, which can also be called the Imaginal, or the Spirit World in indigenous understandings. Stories are not "just in your head," but they aren't "out there" like a rock or a ham sandwich is either.

So pick a good story and the universe will reorder, and the daimons themselves to confirm that for you. They're always half-you. (But not 100%. Sorry, Lon.) So pick a nice one. Choose stories that makes you joyous, happy, creative, forgiving, and kind rather than cramped, nit-picking, bitter, angry, and sullen. The Catholic myths and stories work this way for me, but there are others I like depending on what "layer" of reality I'm interacting with.

But if people need to use their imagination to torture themselves and attack others online for 'wrong-think,' that is a Hell of their own making. I think a lot of what appear as silly internet arguments about trivia are their own intellecual process looking for an escape from their own locked-down brain. They think need to achieve absolute conviction what they say is true, often by negating all other viewpoints. Cowards, basically.

The classic Law of Attraction idea that has filtered into magic through modern paganism and other New Age vectors, gave everyone the idea you have to 100% totally "believe" or the magic won't work. Dammit, folks, that is what ceremony is for! We believe what we DO. The world already IS imagination, in my view. Western magic is "Belief by doing' we believe what we act out and what we say, the stories we tell. There is a lot of hind-brain and instinctual linking-up going on once you get your body involved and moving.

There is not point to having a totalizing worldview up front, one where you solve all the mysteries of the Universe , or what the daimons really really "are" Sketch things out with a cosmo-conception the best you can and expect it to update as more and better information comes it. Repeat.

 

[cormundum]

Hear, hear! Totally agreed too many have a dry intellectual approach probably from being inflicted with an overactive, hyper-categorizing left-hemisphere. If the universe is a quantum reality that reorders itself based on the "story" you tell - which I think it is - then you must treat your own life as a laboratory.

In my Daimonic-Neoplatonic view, these are all stories that take on a quantum reality of their own. It does not mean they are "not true." Read Patrick Harpur and Bernardo Kastrup for more discussions on this front. Harpur’s work on the Anima Mundi (World Soul) suggests, and I also agree, that there is a third space between "Matter" and "Mind." This is the Daimonic Realm, which can also be called the Imaginal, or the Spirit World in indigenous understandings. Stories are not "just in your head," but they aren't "out there" like a rock or a ham sandwich is either.

So pick a good story and the universe will reorder, and the daimons themselves to confirm that for you. They're always half-you. (But not 100%. Sorry, Lon.) So pick a nice one. Choose stories that makes you joyous, happy, creative, forgiving, and kind rather than cramped, nit-picking, bitter, angry, and sullen. The Catholic myths and stories work this way for me, but there are others I like depending on what "layer" of reality I'm interacting with.

But if people need to use their imagination to torture themselves and attack others online for 'wrong-think,' that is a Hell of their own making. I think a lot of what appear as silly internet arguments about trivia are their own intellecual process looking for an escape from their own locked-down brain. They think need to achieve absolute conviction what they say is true, often by negating all other viewpoints. Cowards, basically.

The classic Law of Attraction idea that has filtered into magic through modern paganism and other New Age vectors, gave everyone the idea you have to 100% totally "believe" or the magic won't work. Dammit, folks, that is what ceremony is for! We believe what we DO. The world already IS imagination, in my view. Western magic is "Belief by doing' we believe what we act out and what we say, the stories we tell. There is a lot of hind-brain and instinctual linking-up going on once you get your body involved and moving.

There is not point to having a totalizing worldview up front, one where you solve all the mysteries of the Universe , or what the daimons really really "are" Sketch things out with a cosmo-conception the best you can and expect it to update as more and better information comes it. Repeat.

We seem to be pretty much on the same page. People tell stories that their sub-conscious spins into the world around them, which is then manifest by the spirits that surround us. There is a teaching from Rebbe Nachman of Breslov that whenever one has a thought, his lips move and it is spoken, whether he realizes it or not. This I think serves as a great explanation for how Law of Assumption and Attraction work for people, if you consider what is written in the Book of Abramelin that the spirits do not obey thoughts, but only spoken words. Many of us are speaking/singing all sorts of garbage into our lives and it has nothing to do with anything other than our own thoughts and assumptions.

My old man would always say, "If you can or you can't, you're right." That lesson was hammered into my head from my teenaged years and I've held onto it as a principle to live by, especially with the magickal stuff. I'm pretty convinced that most practitioners tell themselves constantly that they can't have such-and-such success because Magick Pope X says you can't, and Frater Fakus Latinus would have done it if it were possible, so it most certainly can't be.