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[Help] OBE, Pathworking, and Astral Projection

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DiLoco_DelEted

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What are the differences between the three?
Is Lucid dreaming a pre requisite?
How do you stay in control?
What dangers have you faced or overcome?

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I could be wrong, but pathworking requires visualisation, while its not neccesary for the other two, but could be used. Also one difference in pathworking is you are on a mission most of the time, you have a set goal, while with the other two you are mostly chilling out. Of course nobody is stopping you from doing something there.

Most of the time OBE is synonymus with Astral Projection, as in they refer to the same thing. But technically Etheric or Mental Projections are also OBE, if we think about it.


Is Lucid dreaming a pre requisite
No, helpful for an OBE however.

How do you stay in control?
Its intuitive. You will see what I mean.


What dangers have you faced or overcome?
When I was only able to partially project and fucked up my likely etheric arm because I wasn't able to put it back... Yeah, that shit fucking hurts. The solution was to shove my arm into a bucket of water. Years later I learned that water is very good at dispelling etheric material.
 
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I could be wrong, but pathworking requires visualisation, while its not neccesary for the other two, but could be used. Also one difference in pathworking is you are on a mission most of the time, you have a set goal, while with the other two you are mostly chilling out. Of course nobody is stopping you from doing something there.

Most of the time OBE is synonymus with Astral Projection, as in they refer to the same thing. But technically Etheric or Mental Projections are also OBE, if we think about it.



No, helpful for an OBE however.


Its intuitive. You will see what I mean.



When I was only able to partially project and fucked up my likely etheric arm because I wasn't able to put it back... Yeah, that shit fucking hurts. The solution was to shove my arm into a bucket of water. Years later I learned that water is very good at dispelling etheric material.
Thanks Vandheer, I appreciate the detailed responses that answered the questions.
As far as AA work, it appears the Neophyte is to take control of the Astral Plane. Unless I'm mistaken from what I read. So I'm going to have to change a lot, quickly.
 

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Thanks Vandheer, I appreciate the detailed responses that answered the questions.
As far as AA work, it appears the Neophyte is to take control of the Astral Plane. Unless I'm mistaken from what I read. So I'm going to have to change a lot, quickly.
Yuuuuuup. Not gonna lie even I am tempted to join.
 

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No. Came close to it twice. Felt my chest rocking and all that.
Listen, you gotta lose the fear. I mean, I don't Astral Project intentionally. Only when God allows it to happen. But, I really think you should lose the fear, because the fear holds you back from exploring the Spiritual world. You should ask God to guide you on that. He does it for me. Eventhough, it's been a long time since I had one.
 
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DiLoco_DelEted

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Yeah, it will be soon that I will venture into astral travel. Fear was the hold back in previous attempts.
 

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Out of body experience is the experience of leaving your body and perceiving from a point outside it. It can include feeling the vibrations, floating, or seeing the room you’re in. This is something you’d experience before you get to astral projection. So you can totally skip the whole out of body experience part and go straight to astral projection.

Pathworking is more of a guided journey, often through visualization or meditation where you “travel” through symbolic landscapes like temples, tunnels, etc. It’s more about gaining insight, or doing ritual work. Since it’s guided, somebody helps you to astral project to where you needed to go, even if you can’t astral project by yourself.

Astral projection is the experience when you travel on astral plane. Many people treat astral projection with a specific goal like travel, explore, contact someone, etc. Out of body experience and pathworking are all parts of astral projection. One part is you experiencing separation from your body before you project onto another plane, another part is being guided or helped to get to the place you’re trying to reach. And obviously, once you’re experienced with pathworking, you don’t need help to be guided anymore, but it’s different with astral projection.

Is lucid dreaming a prerequisite? No. It’s an ability you gain through practice after you’re already working with astral projection. Many people mistake a very vivid dream for lucid dreaming, but lucid dreaming is having full control of your body while you know you’re in the dream. Control over your actions and choices, like moving your hands, your legs, walking, deciding what to do, interacting with things, and even exiting the dream on purpose whenever you want it.

This is why when something happens to you in a normal dream, you usually just wake up. No matter how vivid it was, it still wasn’t lucid because you’re not in control. In a lucid dream, the dream doesn’t automatically end just because something happens. You continue to stay in it, respond to what’s happening, and change how the situation plays out. You choose how and when to exit.

The biggest difference between a lucid dream and a normal dream is that you know you are dreaming while in the dream. Whereas in a normal dream, you only realize it was a dream after you wake up. And when something happens in that normal dream, you wake up, you have zero control of your body or any elements in it.
 
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