Order of the 9 Angles (no typo, Angles, not Angels) - real life crazy cultists of the "Dark Gods"

[silencewaits]

Word. Being an old geezer myself, and being around a lot in the occult "scene" and, to use a modern term, "occulture", I fully second your statement and would go even further by saying that 99% of the so called left hand path is made up bullshit. Consider the 218 and 182 "currents": a mix of a ripoff of gnostic christian Weltanschauung and misunderstood Santa Muerte and San La Muerte cults, with a pinch of fantasy interpretation of Genesis and complete ripoff of Quimbanda Exu and Pomba Gira sigils. Consider also the impossible to obtain ritual ingredients for the majority of senseless rituals, combine with that wishful thinking and skyrocketing ego and you have a recipe for disaster. The real magic is, as the movie title goes, everything everywhere all the time. Terry Pratchett also said it when he wrote about wizards sitting in their ivory (or black) towers, oblivious to real magic flowing all around them.

They also have in their origins in a mix of different so-called "Left-Hand Path" traditions. One of them you can guess. I agree with your last two sentences. I often get the same feelings I get from a successful working from weirdly synchronicity-laden moments. A lot of 'occult insight' I get is from sources people would never expect; some of the best curses don't involve cursing at all, as well as the best bindings.

I'm a bit unfamiliar--what are some of the ritual ingredients?

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Well, that makes it even odder to me. Achieving spiritual immortality through the ONA then suddenly believing in allah and salvation by proxy. I can think of something much likelier being the case.

Spiritual immortality necessitates the passing away of your physical life; otherwise you are (by definition) living a mortal existence. It's achieved through your own work. If your existence is dependent on frail, feeble, temporal underpinnings it will pass away just the same. I've observed some people continuing their existence through their folk--their familial relations being one obvious example. But that too is liable to pass away just the same. If you are no longer known, how can anyone recognize you in a more concrete form? If your name passes from memory, the ripples of your deeds calm, then you are no longer existent past your death. If you build an existence for yourself past this world, past the places in-between it, then perhaps you can live on.

But (and this is entirely personal conjecture) there may be something beyond the in-between. The astral. The so-called higher dimensions. What people have called theos, Source, or God. The ninth sphere beyond the eighth, whereby the ogdoadic physis once achieved is transcended. Immortality then is just a bus pass, or a lottery ticket. If you manage to perpetuate your existence, there is no guarantee there aren't more hurdles you have to jump through. More knowledge of the realms beyond this realm you must accumulate. You may still fade away, consumed into (or by) something greater than yourself. You may still, in a way, have transcended your mortal existence. But you will not have reached that singularity some hint at.

But death is not so bad. There are people who trying to become immortal or enlightened fail to even be mortal. Firewood, living dust, walking corpses. The idea of someone who seeks out all that life has to offer (one who wishes to know their own limits, and the truth) might be terrifying, or even silly. A lot of people balk at things like 'extremism', experiencing different religions, or physical/moral/whatever challenges because they like the easy and comfortable answers, an easy and comfortable life. They do not possess a skill for learning (which requires direct experience), or they do not have a personal character that is unsatisfied by what others tell them is right/wrong/true/false/heresy/orthodox. Which is not to say I'm advocating for that, of course, but I am saying that the confusion that results from the kind of life he has lived is only confusing because it is misunderstood.

Do people seek out salvation or immortality because they are scared of death or Hell? That's weakness. Have you ever considered that he doesn't care about the things you or others care about? That he is seeking out knowledge, or a glimpse of what he terms 'the numinous', or a greater future--by whatever standards he personally judges that to be? That he believes things can only be learned through direct experience of them, and puts his money where his mouth is?

I could tell you what it was like to experience something on the edge of existence, where few people have dared to tread, but it will not carry over much of anything if you have not lived it or something similar to that experience. Instead of familiarity one would have to rely on foreign experiences, subconscious prejudices, or programming. The finer details, the differences, the actual content or identity of the various factors or motivations would not be properly understood.

 

[Cleric]

They also have in their origins in a mix of different so-called "Left-Hand Path" traditions. One of them you can guess. I agree with your last two sentences. I often get the same feelings I get from a successful working from weirdly synchronicity-laden moments. A lot of 'occult insight' I get is from sources people would never expect; some of the best curses don't involve cursing at all, as well as the best bindings.

I'm a bit unfamiliar--what are some of the ritual ingredients?

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Spiritual immortality necessitates the passing away of your physical life; otherwise you are (by definition) living a mortal existence. It's achieved through your own work. If your existence is dependent on frail, feeble, temporal underpinnings it will pass away just the same. I've observed some people continuing their existence through their folk--their familial relations being one obvious example. But that too is liable to pass away just the same. If you are no longer known, how can anyone recognize you in a more concrete form? If your name passes from memory, the ripples of your deeds calm, then you are no longer existent past your death. If you build an existence for yourself past this world, past the places in-between it, then perhaps you can live on.

But (and this is entirely personal conjecture) there may be something beyond the in-between. The astral. The so-called higher dimensions. What people have called theos, Source, or God. The ninth sphere beyond the eighth, whereby the ogdoadic physis once achieved is transcended. Immortality then is just a bus pass, or a lottery ticket. If you manage to perpetuate your existence, there is no guarantee there aren't more hurdles you have to jump through. More knowledge of the realms beyond this realm you must accumulate. You may still fade away, consumed into (or by) something greater than yourself. You may still, in a way, have transcended your mortal existence. But you will not have reached that singularity some hint at.

But death is not so bad. There are people who trying to become immortal or enlightened fail to even be mortal. Firewood, living dust, walking corpses. The idea of someone who seeks out all that life has to offer (one who wishes to know their own limits, and the truth) might be terrifying, or even silly. A lot of people balk at things like 'extremism', experiencing different religions, or physical/moral/whatever challenges because they like the easy and comfortable answers, an easy and comfortable life. They do not possess a skill for learning (which requires direct experience), or they do not have a personal character that is unsatisfied by what others tell them is right/wrong/true/false/heresy/orthodox. Which is not to say I'm advocating for that, of course, but I am saying that the confusion that results from the kind of life he has lived is only confusing because it is misunderstood.

Do people seek out salvation or immortality because they are scared of death or Hell? That's weakness. Have you ever considered that he doesn't care about the things you or others care about? That he is seeking out knowledge, or a glimpse of what he terms 'the numinous', or a greater future--by whatever standards he personally judges that to be? That he believes things can only be learned through direct experience of them, and puts his money where his mouth is?

I could tell you what it was like to experience something on the edge of existence, where few people have dared to tread, but it will not carry over much of anything if you have not lived it or something similar to that experience. Instead of familiarity one would have to rely on foreign experiences, subconscious prejudices, or programming. The finer details, the differences, the actual content or identity of the various factors or motivations would not be properly understood.

Oh, the range of ingredients varies; you have to find, for example, a black crow with a single white feather and offer it as blood sacrifice; also there's the little finger from the left (of course!) hand from the corpse or skeleton of a convicted and executed murderer buried in hallowed ground. And when you can't, for the life of you, obtain said finger without the risk of being caught and commited to a mental institution for life, the authors of said rituals will tell you that you're not commited enough, or that the dark powers that be don't fancy you.
And people fall for such bullshit; it's easier to, say, listen to an individual proclaiming that he can make you a living god, while he's still living in his mum's basement, than to commit oneself to half an hour of meditation a day, or keep a daily magical diary, or performing a lowly lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram, or any such uncool activity. Sad, really, but there you have it.

 

[BachausMaximus]

The internet, video games, apathy, laziness and the lack of a meaningful attention span have definitely impacted most people's willingness to engage in social organizations, church, esoteric orders or even politics. The attendance and engagement at my city has declined precipitously since the late 2000's. Even gang membership and youth crime have declined for the most part. It reminds me of The Electric State by Stalenhag except wireless. It seems like most folks now are just tic toc zombies and sheep now. Although this does present a whole host of opportunities for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

 

[Beyond Everything]

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But death is not so bad. There are people who trying to become immortal or enlightened fail to even be mortal. Firewood, living dust, walking corpses. The idea of someone who seeks out all that life has to offer (one who wishes to know their own limits, and the truth) might be terrifying, or even silly. A lot of people balk at things like 'extremism', experiencing different religions, or physical/moral/whatever challenges because they like the easy and comfortable answers, an easy and comfortable life. They do not possess a skill for learning (which requires direct experience), or they do not have a personal character that is unsatisfied by what others tell them is right/wrong/true/false/heresy/orthodox. Which is not to say I'm advocating for that, of course, but I am saying that the confusion that results from the kind of life he has lived is only confusing because it is misunderstood.

I think this is all quite irrelevant.

He propagated teachings that explicity include the achievement of immortality. I'm saying he's full of shit.

 

[silencewaits]

I think this is all quite irrelevant.

He propagated teachings that explicity include the achievement of immortality. I'm saying he's full of shit.

Are you immortal?

 

[Beyond Everything]

Are you immortal?

Anyone can type anything online. A really excellent clairvoyant is what you'd need.

 

[Kalunga1]

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(It was written mostly for the players of the Lovecraftian TTRPGs, like Call of Cthulhu, Delta Green etc., but during my research I found some widl shit, so I am sharing it with You. I am not promoting this organization).

Academics have found it difficult to ascertain "exact and verifiable information" about the ONA's origins given the high level of secrecy it maintains. As with many other occult organisations, the Order shrouds its history in "mystery and legend", creating a "mythical narrative" for its origins and development.
The ONA claims to be the descendant of pre-Christian pagan traditions which survived the Christianisation of Britain and were passed down from the Middle Ages onward in small groups or "temples" which were based in the Welsh Marches – a border area which is located between England and Wales – each of which was led by a grand master or a grand mistress. Sounds like anothe New Age pagan group? Well, ONA members consider themselves „traditional satanists”. And they are not Laveyan Satanists, aka atheists who like edgy, dark vibes.

The ONA believe that humans live within the causal realm, which obeys the laws of cause and effect. They also believe in an acausal realm, in which the laws of physics do not apply, further promoting the idea that numinous energies from the acausal realm can be drawn into the causal, allowing for the performance of magic.
The Order promotes the idea that "Dark Gods" exist within the acausal realm, although it is accepted that some members will interpret them not as real entities but as facets of the human subconscious.

These entities are perceived as dangerous, with the ONA advising caution when interacting with them. Among those Dark Gods whose identities have been discussed in the Order's publicly available material are a goddess named Baphomet who is depicted as a mature woman carrying a severed head. Another of these acausal figures is termed Vindex, after the Latin word for "avenger". The ONA believe that Vindex will eventually incarnate as a human – although the sex and ethnicity of this individual is unknown – through the successful "presencing" of acausal energies within the causal realm, and that they will act as a messianic figure by overthrowing the current forces and leading the ONA to prominence in the establishment of a new society. Nyarlathothep?
The ONA arose to public attention in the early 1980s. During the 1980s and 1990s, it spread its message through articles in magazines. In 1988, it began publication of its own in-house journal, titled Fenrir. Among material it has issued for public consumption have been philosophical tracts, ritual instruction, letters, poetry, and gothic fiction. Its core ritual text is titled the Black Book of Satan. It has also issued its own music, painted tarot set known as the Sinister Tarot, and a three-dimensional board game known as the Star Game.

The group largely consists of autonomous cells known as "nexions". The original cell, based in Shropshire, is known as "Nexion Zero", with the majority of subsequent groups having been established in Britain, Ireland, and Germany. Nexions and other associated groups have been established in the United States, Australia, Brazil, Egypt, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Poland, Serbia, Russia and South Africa.

The Satanism, the ONA assert, requires venturing into the realm of the forbidden and illegal in order to shake the practitioner loose of cultural and political conditioning. It should undermine society and establish its own „Imperium”. ONA texts such as "The Dreccian Way", "Iron Gates", "Bluebird" and "The Rape Anthology" recommend and praise rape and pedophilia, even suggesting rape is necessary for "ascension of the Ubermensch". And all of this is not some posturing by wannabe villains „huhu, we are so evil!!!'.

The FBI officially considers ONA nexion 764 and its offshoots terrorist organizations. According to Global Project Against Hate and Extremism", "[764] operates within the framework of the broader ONA, which advocates the destruction of society through criminal acts such as violence, sexual assault, murder, and terrorism [and] is implicated in a network of online cults that exploit and groom children."

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As of November 2023 Finnish police was investigating at least three terrorism cases connected to ONA. Russian Sergey Chulkov ("Nosferatu") allegedly raped a 14-year-old girl — several times in his car, then in an apartment on Moscow Zavodskaya Street. Chulkov is a member of a Russian nexion according to the police, was arrested with ONA literature and was tattooed with satanic occult symbols. In December 2024, a high school student in Guadalajara, Mexico broadcasted himself attacking his classmates with an axe. His social media posts showed his allegiance to the Order of Nine Angles, including blood pacts.

23-year-old Hugo Figuerola, member of the ONA, was arrested in late February 2025 in Spain for threatening a mass shooting and bombing in Valencia, A Wisconsin teen is alleged to have killed his father and mother on February 11, 2025 and planned to assassinate Donald Trump to "save the white race" and start a revolution. The teen was also in possession of ONA material and identified himself as a member of ONA.

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ONA members describe themselves as Satanists, but their core concept – existence of the acausal reality, which denies established rules of logic and science and bizarre „Dark Gods” which are connected to it and which are dangerous to be contacted, makes them potential antagonist in the Lovecraftian story as an eldritch cult, just using „Satan” as name recognizable in the culture (well, is Satan not just one of the faces of Nyarlathotep?). And their behaviour sounds very similar to the credo of the cult of Cthulhu: „Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom”.

Yes it's real. A good friend of mine is a member of considerable rank. The real thing has become very much clandestine and back to its physical roots. Unless you can pass certain tests like meet them in the astral your not getting anywhere near the real thing. And the TOB was a legit MK-Ultra program for creating Sleepwalkers (multiple personalities) as assassins or terrorists etc who could basically go out and live perfectly normal lives, even go to church etc and have a Satanic tier 01 operator personality they didn't even know about that their handlers or certain circumstances could trigger. It sounds rediculous but I'm not kidding. You notice that for all the certified horse S___ Koetting preached after his downward spiral he never brought up the TOB or spoke on them much at all. There's a reason.

That man is sad, a true inspiration, phenomenal black magician but he thought he could just call on African diasporic entities purely by ego entitlement and call it a backdoor. Few years later he's looking like a literal shell of his former self and acting weird AF, being manipulated by his gay lover Timothy. Terrible, I really admired that man in his golden day. Anyway different conversation I'm sure so I'll break from that. If anyone wants to look into some legit ONA stuff I can provide some info if you can get a response from anyone. Private telegram channels and even then they're hardly active.

Hope everyone is enjoying Spooktober!

 

[PolishTruthSeeker]

Clearly a psyop group that influences society.

 

[zamradiel]

I hold no ties to the ONA or any who claim its lineage. Their path isn't mine. But I do remember the first stirrings of their presence... when that shadow brushed the current.

Be cautious of anyone claiming to speak for its origin... almost none ever do.

Authentic Source:

1. Anton Long (David Myatt) as primary author.
2. Christos Beest (Richard Moult) as public face and representative.
3. Joshua French (Xaphian, nasi-dom.net) as the first digital archivist and disseminator.

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O9A, T.O.B, even the early T.O.S (Temple Of Set) are nothing more than Neo Nazi trash. They bring nothing of value to the work.

Academically dishonest to include Set imho

 

[Van Horne]

Take it or leave it, but O9A is kind of a success story. There are rumors and controversies around them, they are (still) talk of the town.
I'm intrigued by some their more "original" ideas like their pantheon of dark gods and their general aesthetics, but essays about why Goering actually was a cool guy or why I should definitely join my local salafist group, are turning me off.

Is it a ruse to bring edgy occult kids to join a neo-nazi organisation? I don't know. Seems a lot of effort.
I kinda enjoyed their twist to make satanism "dangerous" again, as some kind of counter movement to The Satanic Temple, who turned the thing (in my eyes) into a politically correct hippie love fest.

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Academically dishonest to include Set imho

Yeah! And the Temple of the Black Light may consist of some giant edge lords (and some great musicians) but I would not consider them as "Neo Nazi Trash".

 

[asmodazanigin]

I came across them in 12 or 13...fell in love ...half of what they had to described id already done on instinct...and the work on archetypes of a civilization : magian vs sinister, couples cum demone2, and the seven essays in praise of the sinister were all the things of been trying to articulate, but were expressed much more clearely and more eloquently than my rants against the " safety people", " citizens vs warriors" , 'modernity"and " consensus reality', and struggling to get my point across that almost nothing that the average person sees as significant in the modern world is actually real or of lasting import out side of a weird side note lost in the akashic records...only a few pages long...in an infinite book...id been preaching something similar since the early mid aughts...the fact I found someone else who saw the same stuff was a blessing...id been called crazy for years...it was if you'll excuse the pun...vindication....hehe....Chloe's work on explaining budism was also an eye

opener...there's alot of organic spirit religion in that there theravada...and as I was dating my third wife , who is a budist, at the time...it helped me go e her the chances that led me to respect her...I had previously, and in its native form wrongly of pointed budism as one of the moral / pro social religions, instead of a legit spirit based religion, like bhakti hinduism, native American religion, daoism, many indigenous African systems, and the polytheistic paganisms of eurasia...

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I had already been doing a bastardized Americanized take on living as an agori for over a year and a half when I discovered anton long and Chloe ortega, this wasn't a burn some once se and quote the upanishads wearing hemp clothing and Birkenstocks type take on agori...it was a remaking...id had a bad second failed marriage...had been gullible and let myself fall into the fallacie of ascribing my inate honesty and ethics to my ex wife...who'd used that to decide ee in many ways, including elaborate lies designed to make me think I was senile and maybe schizophrenic as well ...solvet saeclum in favilla... indeed...so I was feeling like withdrawing from the world, I was done with wemon, and was feeling like a mark, and a failure...but inspired by a book I read on agoris in India I took on my next and do far most transformative insight role...not that I'd ever heard the term... This was not conceived of as a magical act...though I had been undergoing a spiritual waking for a few years, I still didn't realize that I was on fact a sorcerer( Alan watts type not Harry potter).

So I changed the way I went about my life...I lived in a house I'd inherited from my grandmother...it had burnt a year and a bit earlier..luckily I had insurance and was able to get it livable again, but living on couches and in friends houses for a year had primed me for my insight role ...

Instead of hiding in shame at my blindness, and misplaced trust and protecting myself thru isolation...I went through other way ...hard...I secured a ( quart crystal..haha 9 angles joke) plug, and started traping, this solved the money issue, as she had messed the finances up ,badly before leaving, but more over it paved the way for the rest of the rebirth.
..id always taken great pride in my strength and physique, I had 500+# of oly weights in my back yard....and had made a meat based performance diet a priority in my budget, and had looked down on addicts as well, in addition I had always had a phobia about needles, not piercing or tattooing ...specifically the feeling of injections...I hated it..
WELL FUCK THAT SHIT. I was jumping in with both feet...I had my first box of syringes within the week, and a couple of partners, one a partner in business ,the other was a retired fellow who'd only been back from the feds a few years who looking back was trying to keep me alive...bless him...within another week and I had my next puzzle piece... Done with girls...well I was done having sex with them myself, but I was now the proud pimp of two working girls...and was sharing a section 8 apt with two unemployed ladys as my office. I had also began rubing ashes on my face and had strapped my arm to a board and cut the motto "one mind any weapon" into the inside bend of my arm, and then applied a genorus to slathering of tattoo ink every 12 or so hours for the next four days as the flesh scabed and peeled out ..all without painkillers or any hygiene...I had given up bathing , brushing, and giving a fuck how other people looked at me...I had switched out my belt knife for a machete that never left my side for years, and started brushing up on my balitnawak, I had hung a heavy bag up in my living room and started dialing in my kick boxing, and getting my limbs conditioned, with one hour per day at a natural pace, within a half dozen weeks I was doing 3 or 4 hr most days, with the help of the I v qwartz crystals whitch needless to say increase endurance dramatically...no weights though, I had resumed powerlifting a few years before , but I was remaking myself a new so sinse that was a normal part of life to me..no weights during the alchemy...and little food, though I did try to drink at least three cups chocolate milk during the heavy bag work each day...if I didn't I had to substitute pepsi...or blood sugst would drop sharply... in addition I was moving on foot across feilds and thru woods to and from my office...as you can imagine I went from a semi swole 230 to a skeletal 175 with a quickness...I had previously been taking classes at community college and read books constantly...I stoped the classes cold, and spent my time I would've been reading , or more likely rereading a book, in ether physical training, writing songs and poems, or teaching my self to make knives and carve wood...I would constantly have ether a circular saw blade and Dremel or a knife blank and file in my hand or pocket...and often a piece of wood and pocket knife as well....I had not made anything sinse boy scouts and pinewood derby cars...but I was rectifing that lack of skill ..during that year and a half I never had sex, I have always prided myself on that skill and enjoyed long drawn out sessions...I taught myself orgasm retention as a teenager so I could lay up all weekend with whom ever I was dating...that time ties for the longest I've went celibate with a period of incarceration some years latter, but I jacked in jail...I honestly don't to think I even jacked except one time , and that was interrupted by a knock at the window...no sex duringduring the agori role . I went well over a year without washing myself while sweating profusely from my boxing , and rubing myself with cigarette ashes daily, as my skill acquisition usually included wounds...juggling machetes and woodcarving drew the most blood...here I also tested myself by denieing myself any antibiotics...and I not only never died...I never got sick...kali and Shiva took my as there own ... Odin gave my the fierceness and recklessness to avoid injury when challenges arise and though I hadn't befriended him yet I believe Belial was helping me stay free in appreciation for showing the world you could be a lawless force of nature if you had the will to do it......

I had thought I was elite before my period as an agori...but the time as an agori my ability to contain and patern energy increased greatly, as nd I found I was still spontaneously falling into meditative trance even though id quit marijuana, whitch was new , while my clairs still suck to this day...i developed the ability to feel energy much more clearly during this time...and I made strides I hadn't even known I needed to make in my character, fearlessness, and the steadfastness of my honor ....if you can knowingly addict yourself to taking qwartz in the arm as nd still do good business on every front without exception for a period of years ...your on the right track

And all this before id ever read the name Anton long...

The reason I feel it useful to detail some of this stuff...and trust me I left all the jucyest , bloodyest, and most redolent of acasslity parts out to protect both the innocent and the guilty and those beyond good and evil, from impersonal judgement and scrutiny...the reason it may be important ( but it also may not be important...depending entirely on wether an individual with the same baldraccan tendencies happens to read this, and see themselves and know they are of the type who will benigit) is to illustrate what type of creature the advice in longs writings is useful to, and the level of both principle / discipline, and fuck it / defiance/ fearlessness, one should have ( I feel) before embarking on the ansdos he lays out...also note that I have not gone in order or by the book ...many of the achievements / experiences I can claim similar equivalence thru slightly modified conditions to those he prescribed in the 7 fw , some I've done sinse discovering the order, but many I didn't do to meet criteria, as I didn't know the criteria existed...I did because it was right at the time...also some hebomadrist will consider my approach un to lean because I work with demons not if anyone would like to share there experiences and or ask questions, I'm happy to correspond , but I am not the most punctual fellow when it comes to phones but I will answer your msg when I get it...