Order of the 9 Angles (no typo, Angles, not Angels) - real life crazy cultists of the "Dark Gods"

[silencewaits]

Word. Being an old geezer myself, and being around a lot in the occult "scene" and, to use a modern term, "occulture", I fully second your statement and would go even further by saying that 99% of the so called left hand path is made up bullshit. Consider the 218 and 182 "currents": a mix of a ripoff of gnostic christian Weltanschauung and misunderstood Santa Muerte and San La Muerte cults, with a pinch of fantasy interpretation of Genesis and complete ripoff of Quimbanda Exu and Pomba Gira sigils. Consider also the impossible to obtain ritual ingredients for the majority of senseless rituals, combine with that wishful thinking and skyrocketing ego and you have a recipe for disaster. The real magic is, as the movie title goes, everything everywhere all the time. Terry Pratchett also said it when he wrote about wizards sitting in their ivory (or black) towers, oblivious to real magic flowing all around them.

They also have in their origins in a mix of different so-called "Left-Hand Path" traditions. One of them you can guess. I agree with your last two sentences. I often get the same feelings I get from a successful working from weirdly synchronicity-laden moments. A lot of 'occult insight' I get is from sources people would never expect; some of the best curses don't involve cursing at all, as well as the best bindings.

I'm a bit unfamiliar--what are some of the ritual ingredients?

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Well, that makes it even odder to me. Achieving spiritual immortality through the ONA then suddenly believing in allah and salvation by proxy. I can think of something much likelier being the case.

Spiritual immortality necessitates the passing away of your physical life; otherwise you are (by definition) living a mortal existence. It's achieved through your own work. If your existence is dependent on frail, feeble, temporal underpinnings it will pass away just the same. I've observed some people continuing their existence through their folk--their familial relations being one obvious example. But that too is liable to pass away just the same. If you are no longer known, how can anyone recognize you in a more concrete form? If your name passes from memory, the ripples of your deeds calm, then you are no longer existent past your death. If you build an existence for yourself past this world, past the places in-between it, then perhaps you can live on.

But (and this is entirely personal conjecture) there may be something beyond the in-between. The astral. The so-called higher dimensions. What people have called theos, Source, or God. The ninth sphere beyond the eighth, whereby the ogdoadic physis once achieved is transcended. Immortality then is just a bus pass, or a lottery ticket. If you manage to perpetuate your existence, there is no guarantee there aren't more hurdles you have to jump through. More knowledge of the realms beyond this realm you must accumulate. You may still fade away, consumed into (or by) something greater than yourself. You may still, in a way, have transcended your mortal existence. But you will not have reached that singularity some hint at.

But death is not so bad. There are people who trying to become immortal or enlightened fail to even be mortal. Firewood, living dust, walking corpses. The idea of someone who seeks out all that life has to offer (one who wishes to know their own limits, and the truth) might be terrifying, or even silly. A lot of people balk at things like 'extremism', experiencing different religions, or physical/moral/whatever challenges because they like the easy and comfortable answers, an easy and comfortable life. They do not possess a skill for learning (which requires direct experience), or they do not have a personal character that is unsatisfied by what others tell them is right/wrong/true/false/heresy/orthodox. Which is not to say I'm advocating for that, of course, but I am saying that the confusion that results from the kind of life he has lived is only confusing because it is misunderstood.

Do people seek out salvation or immortality because they are scared of death or Hell? That's weakness. Have you ever considered that he doesn't care about the things you or others care about? That he is seeking out knowledge, or a glimpse of what he terms 'the numinous', or a greater future--by whatever standards he personally judges that to be? That he believes things can only be learned through direct experience of them, and puts his money where his mouth is?

I could tell you what it was like to experience something on the edge of existence, where few people have dared to tread, but it will not carry over much of anything if you have not lived it or something similar to that experience. Instead of familiarity one would have to rely on foreign experiences, subconscious prejudices, or programming. The finer details, the differences, the actual content or identity of the various factors or motivations would not be properly understood.

 

[Cleric]

They also have in their origins in a mix of different so-called "Left-Hand Path" traditions. One of them you can guess. I agree with your last two sentences. I often get the same feelings I get from a successful working from weirdly synchronicity-laden moments. A lot of 'occult insight' I get is from sources people would never expect; some of the best curses don't involve cursing at all, as well as the best bindings.

I'm a bit unfamiliar--what are some of the ritual ingredients?

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Spiritual immortality necessitates the passing away of your physical life; otherwise you are (by definition) living a mortal existence. It's achieved through your own work. If your existence is dependent on frail, feeble, temporal underpinnings it will pass away just the same. I've observed some people continuing their existence through their folk--their familial relations being one obvious example. But that too is liable to pass away just the same. If you are no longer known, how can anyone recognize you in a more concrete form? If your name passes from memory, the ripples of your deeds calm, then you are no longer existent past your death. If you build an existence for yourself past this world, past the places in-between it, then perhaps you can live on.

But (and this is entirely personal conjecture) there may be something beyond the in-between. The astral. The so-called higher dimensions. What people have called theos, Source, or God. The ninth sphere beyond the eighth, whereby the ogdoadic physis once achieved is transcended. Immortality then is just a bus pass, or a lottery ticket. If you manage to perpetuate your existence, there is no guarantee there aren't more hurdles you have to jump through. More knowledge of the realms beyond this realm you must accumulate. You may still fade away, consumed into (or by) something greater than yourself. You may still, in a way, have transcended your mortal existence. But you will not have reached that singularity some hint at.

But death is not so bad. There are people who trying to become immortal or enlightened fail to even be mortal. Firewood, living dust, walking corpses. The idea of someone who seeks out all that life has to offer (one who wishes to know their own limits, and the truth) might be terrifying, or even silly. A lot of people balk at things like 'extremism', experiencing different religions, or physical/moral/whatever challenges because they like the easy and comfortable answers, an easy and comfortable life. They do not possess a skill for learning (which requires direct experience), or they do not have a personal character that is unsatisfied by what others tell them is right/wrong/true/false/heresy/orthodox. Which is not to say I'm advocating for that, of course, but I am saying that the confusion that results from the kind of life he has lived is only confusing because it is misunderstood.

Do people seek out salvation or immortality because they are scared of death or Hell? That's weakness. Have you ever considered that he doesn't care about the things you or others care about? That he is seeking out knowledge, or a glimpse of what he terms 'the numinous', or a greater future--by whatever standards he personally judges that to be? That he believes things can only be learned through direct experience of them, and puts his money where his mouth is?

I could tell you what it was like to experience something on the edge of existence, where few people have dared to tread, but it will not carry over much of anything if you have not lived it or something similar to that experience. Instead of familiarity one would have to rely on foreign experiences, subconscious prejudices, or programming. The finer details, the differences, the actual content or identity of the various factors or motivations would not be properly understood.

Oh, the range of ingredients varies; you have to find, for example, a black crow with a single white feather and offer it as blood sacrifice; also there's the little finger from the left (of course!) hand from the corpse or skeleton of a convicted and executed murderer buried in hallowed ground. And when you can't, for the life of you, obtain said finger without the risk of being caught and commited to a mental institution for life, the authors of said rituals will tell you that you're not commited enough, or that the dark powers that be don't fancy you.
And people fall for such bullshit; it's easier to, say, listen to an individual proclaiming that he can make you a living god, while he's still living in his mum's basement, than to commit oneself to half an hour of meditation a day, or keep a daily magical diary, or performing a lowly lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram, or any such uncool activity. Sad, really, but there you have it.

 

[BachausMaximus]

The internet, video games, apathy, laziness and the lack of a meaningful attention span have definitely impacted most people's willingness to engage in social organizations, church, esoteric orders or even politics. The attendance and engagement at my city has declined precipitously since the late 2000's. Even gang membership and youth crime have declined for the most part. It reminds me of The Electric State by Stalenhag except wireless. It seems like most folks now are just tic toc zombies and sheep now. Although this does present a whole host of opportunities for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

 

[Beyond Everything]

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But death is not so bad. There are people who trying to become immortal or enlightened fail to even be mortal. Firewood, living dust, walking corpses. The idea of someone who seeks out all that life has to offer (one who wishes to know their own limits, and the truth) might be terrifying, or even silly. A lot of people balk at things like 'extremism', experiencing different religions, or physical/moral/whatever challenges because they like the easy and comfortable answers, an easy and comfortable life. They do not possess a skill for learning (which requires direct experience), or they do not have a personal character that is unsatisfied by what others tell them is right/wrong/true/false/heresy/orthodox. Which is not to say I'm advocating for that, of course, but I am saying that the confusion that results from the kind of life he has lived is only confusing because it is misunderstood.

I think this is all quite irrelevant.

He propagated teachings that explicity include the achievement of immortality. I'm saying he's full of shit.

 

[silencewaits]

I think this is all quite irrelevant.

He propagated teachings that explicity include the achievement of immortality. I'm saying he's full of shit.

Are you immortal?

 

[Beyond Everything]

Are you immortal?

Anyone can type anything online. A really excellent clairvoyant is what you'd need.

 

[Kalunga1]

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(It was written mostly for the players of the Lovecraftian TTRPGs, like Call of Cthulhu, Delta Green etc., but during my research I found some widl shit, so I am sharing it with You. I am not promoting this organization).

Academics have found it difficult to ascertain "exact and verifiable information" about the ONA's origins given the high level of secrecy it maintains. As with many other occult organisations, the Order shrouds its history in "mystery and legend", creating a "mythical narrative" for its origins and development.
The ONA claims to be the descendant of pre-Christian pagan traditions which survived the Christianisation of Britain and were passed down from the Middle Ages onward in small groups or "temples" which were based in the Welsh Marches – a border area which is located between England and Wales – each of which was led by a grand master or a grand mistress. Sounds like anothe New Age pagan group? Well, ONA members consider themselves „traditional satanists”. And they are not Laveyan Satanists, aka atheists who like edgy, dark vibes.

The ONA believe that humans live within the causal realm, which obeys the laws of cause and effect. They also believe in an acausal realm, in which the laws of physics do not apply, further promoting the idea that numinous energies from the acausal realm can be drawn into the causal, allowing for the performance of magic.
The Order promotes the idea that "Dark Gods" exist within the acausal realm, although it is accepted that some members will interpret them not as real entities but as facets of the human subconscious.

These entities are perceived as dangerous, with the ONA advising caution when interacting with them. Among those Dark Gods whose identities have been discussed in the Order's publicly available material are a goddess named Baphomet who is depicted as a mature woman carrying a severed head. Another of these acausal figures is termed Vindex, after the Latin word for "avenger". The ONA believe that Vindex will eventually incarnate as a human – although the sex and ethnicity of this individual is unknown – through the successful "presencing" of acausal energies within the causal realm, and that they will act as a messianic figure by overthrowing the current forces and leading the ONA to prominence in the establishment of a new society. Nyarlathothep?
The ONA arose to public attention in the early 1980s. During the 1980s and 1990s, it spread its message through articles in magazines. In 1988, it began publication of its own in-house journal, titled Fenrir. Among material it has issued for public consumption have been philosophical tracts, ritual instruction, letters, poetry, and gothic fiction. Its core ritual text is titled the Black Book of Satan. It has also issued its own music, painted tarot set known as the Sinister Tarot, and a three-dimensional board game known as the Star Game.

The group largely consists of autonomous cells known as "nexions". The original cell, based in Shropshire, is known as "Nexion Zero", with the majority of subsequent groups having been established in Britain, Ireland, and Germany. Nexions and other associated groups have been established in the United States, Australia, Brazil, Egypt, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Poland, Serbia, Russia and South Africa.

The Satanism, the ONA assert, requires venturing into the realm of the forbidden and illegal in order to shake the practitioner loose of cultural and political conditioning. It should undermine society and establish its own „Imperium”. ONA texts such as "The Dreccian Way", "Iron Gates", "Bluebird" and "The Rape Anthology" recommend and praise rape and pedophilia, even suggesting rape is necessary for "ascension of the Ubermensch". And all of this is not some posturing by wannabe villains „huhu, we are so evil!!!'.

The FBI officially considers ONA nexion 764 and its offshoots terrorist organizations. According to Global Project Against Hate and Extremism", "[764] operates within the framework of the broader ONA, which advocates the destruction of society through criminal acts such as violence, sexual assault, murder, and terrorism [and] is implicated in a network of online cults that exploit and groom children."

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As of November 2023 Finnish police was investigating at least three terrorism cases connected to ONA. Russian Sergey Chulkov ("Nosferatu") allegedly raped a 14-year-old girl — several times in his car, then in an apartment on Moscow Zavodskaya Street. Chulkov is a member of a Russian nexion according to the police, was arrested with ONA literature and was tattooed with satanic occult symbols. In December 2024, a high school student in Guadalajara, Mexico broadcasted himself attacking his classmates with an axe. His social media posts showed his allegiance to the Order of Nine Angles, including blood pacts.

23-year-old Hugo Figuerola, member of the ONA, was arrested in late February 2025 in Spain for threatening a mass shooting and bombing in Valencia, A Wisconsin teen is alleged to have killed his father and mother on February 11, 2025 and planned to assassinate Donald Trump to "save the white race" and start a revolution. The teen was also in possession of ONA material and identified himself as a member of ONA.

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ONA members describe themselves as Satanists, but their core concept – existence of the acausal reality, which denies established rules of logic and science and bizarre „Dark Gods” which are connected to it and which are dangerous to be contacted, makes them potential antagonist in the Lovecraftian story as an eldritch cult, just using „Satan” as name recognizable in the culture (well, is Satan not just one of the faces of Nyarlathotep?). And their behaviour sounds very similar to the credo of the cult of Cthulhu: „Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom”.

Yes it's real. A good friend of mine is a member of considerable rank. The real thing has become very much clandestine and back to its physical roots. Unless you can pass certain tests like meet them in the astral your not getting anywhere near the real thing. And the TOB was a legit MK-Ultra program for creating Sleepwalkers (multiple personalities) as assassins or terrorists etc who could basically go out and live perfectly normal lives, even go to church etc and have a Satanic tier 01 operator personality they didn't even know about that their handlers or certain circumstances could trigger. It sounds rediculous but I'm not kidding. You notice that for all the certified horse S___ Koetting preached after his downward spiral he never brought up the TOB or spoke on them much at all. There's a reason.

That man is sad, a true inspiration, phenomenal black magician but he thought he could just call on African diasporic entities purely by ego entitlement and call it a backdoor. Few years later he's looking like a literal shell of his former self and acting weird AF, being manipulated by his gay lover Timothy. Terrible, I really admired that man in his golden day. Anyway different conversation I'm sure so I'll break from that. If anyone wants to look into some legit ONA stuff I can provide some info if you can get a response from anyone. Private telegram channels and even then they're hardly active.

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