Pondered upon Satan's angelic name

[Amur]

Came to the point one night that Satan's angelic name is AYin-Shin-Aleph-Lamed. Ashel in other words. It really means the Evil Spirit of God. It is certainly now Samael,
which means the Poison of God. As Satan is something else. Satan is also in contact with shamanism and shamans and has alot to do with them also. From Satan's
vantage point while discussing with Him, he said that the jews had removed his name from all Scriptures just because they didn't like that an Arch Angel of God was evil, not sure if it's true but does sound alot with how they dealt with Divine things at that time point of the jewish culture. Just discard the bad and keep the good, well a bit like humans are nowadays also. Instead of looking at the ugly side you just work with the best part of yourself, it's not even how the Great Work should be done, it's more about looking into the ugly parts that really gives you a Gem.

 

[Öwnchef]

Came to the point one night that Satan's angelic name is AYin-Shin-Aleph-Lamed. Ashel in other words. It really means the Evil Spirit of God. It is certainly now Samael,
which means the Poison of God. As Satan is something else. Satan is also in contact with shamanism and shamans and has alot to do with them also. From Satan's
vantage point while discussing with Him, he said that the jews had removed his name from all Scriptures just because they didn't like that an Arch Angel of God was evil, not sure if it's true but does sound alot with how they dealt with Divine things at that time point of the jewish culture. Just discard the bad and keep the good, well a bit like humans are nowadays also. Instead of looking at the ugly side you just work with the best part of yourself, it's not even how the Great Work should be done, it's more about looking into the ugly parts that really gives you a Gem.

What speaks against Hel-El?

 

[8Lou1]

isnt that the trail of forgiveness? you dive in your pains until the poison of god stops you and you fall into mercy and are put back together by compassion and joy.

for me satan is more in the lines of sjaitan, the wise one. which can be any being really. first you think hell yeah the ruler of earth and then you realize thats freakin boring just the one and you learn to understand there are other like you who rule like that and you find humbleness in that, cause ruling alone is so damn boring you fall and teach the light. thats how you learn to fly, or for more earth element inclined beings how you learn to rule by providence.

 

[Amur]

What speaks against Hel-El?

The letters. Ayin-Shin-EL says really the Spirit of Evil. That's why I came to that conclusion and Ayin-Shin-Lamed is one of the 72 letters of God. Which is probably why Satan wanted to be God in the first place. Now that I wrote it I got it from Divinity that it really is an alternative to Satan in reality that he will become an Allmighty-God. Pretty neat I hope Satan is glad

 

[Amur]

isnt that the trail of forgiveness? you dive in your pains until the poison of god stops you and you fall into mercy and are put back together by compassion and joy.

for me satan is more in the lines of sjaitan, the wise one. which can be any being really. first you think hell yeah the ruler of earth and then you realize thats freakin boring just the one and you learn to understand there are other like you who rule like that and you find humbleness in that, cause ruling alone is so damn boring you fall and teach the light. thats how you learn to fly, or for more earth element inclined beings how you learn to rule by providence.

Yeah this topic was more over the name of Satan whoever he is. But pretty interesting to see your viewpoints here Thanks for sharing! Would also be interesting if people came here with their own personal namings of Satan.

 

[8Lou1]

well thats actually the reason i replied. cause when you ponder on the name you sort of inhale those attributes and since we have a human body it will be a human version of the meaning. if you see satan as an external being, then your creative thought processes will attract a being and will inhale those attributes and the name satan then can have a totally different outcome then what a human would have and therefor the meaning of the name of satan will also differ.

 

[Amur]

Was starting to think of something that another occultist wrote that if Ashel is a name for Satan then it could be the corruption of both Esh Aleph-Shin and Aleph-Lamed. So I think Samael is also a good name for Satan being the Poison of God.

 

[Amur]

well thats actually the reason i replied. cause when you ponder on the name you sort of inhale those attributes and since we have a human body it will be a human version of the meaning. if you see satan as an external being, then your creative thought processes will attract a being and will inhale those attributes and the name satan then can have a totally different outcome then what a human would have and therefor the meaning of the name of satan will also differ.

Well in this example that you wrote you really see the wonders of language itself as a meaning. It's like the core bit by which we define things and all words have both a symbolical meaning as well as a logical meaning.

 

[Öwnchef]

Still don't get it. Aleph Shin Lamed okay, theoretically. Ayin Zaiyn for obvious reasons...

 

[Amur]

Still don't get it. Aleph Shin Lamed okay, theoretically. Ayin Zaiyn for obvious reasons...

Meant Ayin-Shin-Lamed. Big difference Zayin really means a Weapon or for men Sacrifice as it's also a phallus.

 

[8Lou1]

well thats where i seem to differ from most people. when i started this journey is got symbols, veve, words, etc. but it gave me problems. im quite multicultural in my knowhow and very often these things differ in several cultures. so i broke that conversation down to its core. and in essence it came down to one stupid irritation i had and that was one sexist idea i got stuck with cause its a fun idea of sharing, that men know more about a women then women themselves. sadly it wasnt the case, but a fun ride non the less. so they put me in hell for that, due to me being real and im not permitted to create such a dependency. sad case of severe vampirism due to trauma is resolved. thank you very much.

so due to that shit, i am what i am and for some on earth that is a non human being. thats how i use satans way as i learned it.

 

[Amur]

well thats where i seem to differ from most people. when i started this journey is got symbols, veve, words, etc. but it gave me problems. im quite multicultural in my knowhow and very often these things differ in several cultures. so i broke that conversation down to its core. and in essence it came down to one stupid irritation i had and that was one sexist idea i got stuck with cause its a fun idea of sharing, that men know more about a women then women themselves. sadly it wasnt the case, but a fun ride non the less. so they put me in hell for that, due to me being real and im not permitted to create such a dependency. sad case of severe vampirism due to trauma is resolved. thank you very much.

so due to that shit, i am what i am and for some on earth that is a non human being. thats how i use satans way as i learned it.

Sounds great that you got through a trauma. It's like a poem I wrote about it being an ineffable Gem that gets created in the process. (The power unleashed from resolving the trauma).

Well in a way I think men know more about Divinity in sense of Knowledge, but in sense of intuition and really doing it and living the Way women are much more in tune with the forces that exist and do a much better example of it all. Men tend to talk so much shit and don't do anything and women just do it instinctually. That's how I see the division really

 

[8Lou1]

Thanks, ive been around men so long, grew up with everything girly was wrong, no pink, etc. I sort of am surprised that everyone is just as confused.

What ive noticed due to letting go of what is man/woman, is the fact that there are places were they are male only or female only and it totally is a changing area. We really have changed.

For me thats what the meaning is of what a sjaitan/satan does: change the world occording to ones will.

Btw for me still on point, but if its derailing for you ill be quiet.

I think men know more about divinity in knowhow, because they overall are the ones who said the woman is a mystery and they listened to their male parts while they wrote scripture. And since those parts of a male body have an outgoing function, thats how the priest came to be.
The woman has receiving parts and are more hidden. So she is receptive and a mystery.

See it gets boring like that, but it really was like that for a while on earth.

Thats why i love it when a man loves himself so deeply he starts to share on that level because its his natural way, whatever the outcome.

 

[Öwnchef]

Meant Ayin-Shin-Lamed. Big difference Zayin really means a Weapon or for men Sacrifice as it's also a phallus.

Ayin-Zayin means to fuck in Hebrew. I named it because of the role of Satan being pro sex in Christianity. HEL is an unmarried and pregnant daughter. Heh (daughter/woman) and Lamed (mother).
This is sexist of course and therefore I will stick to it. It shows who they are.

 

[8Lou1]

No wonder i found my moslim inlaws to christian for my taste...
Eventually i did something so strange, it created and uncreated at the same time.

I'll show and tell: in india it was once common for a woman to marry several brothers at once or be inherited by them, so i took my 4 brothers, combined their essences into 1, created an egregore, put that essence in it, married it, so it cant rape me and sucked him dry. That was part one. Totally loved it.

Then 1 started to create the 4 corners of my world and gave my 4 brothers each a corner where they could create their force. They forgot who i am and my brothers left, but one. I became to love him as my husband and had to realign, as i was no longer center, but part of 1 corner. Then the rain of curses came and kek tried to take the throne, pulled the plug on him and found out some stupid ass fuck satanist thought he could attack a Rothschild and i got called to kill him. Found the asshole in enschede and helped resolve his mistakes by begging and pleading in the slavery game for mercy upon his soul. Long story short the wife of faraoh got tortured in the dessert. That wife is fucking me and my soul got raped, my self realigned, my body fake sick and my spirit still angry, but fucking not killing a satanist who went to hell for being him.

Anyways, thats what sjamans do, where sufis wonder, the shadow world of learning tru life and what the dark side of my tariqa does and what many call real Satanism.

Hail Satan!

 

[Öwnchef]

Dammit, you sometimes write like Uncle Al in the Book of Lies, falsely so called.

 

[8Lou1]

When i have a right audience i do anything, im THAT cheap..

 

[Amur]

When i have a right audience i do anything, im THAT cheap..

A good post by you, thankful that you told all that. As a shaman I tend to work with Satan a lot. It even seems like the Power of a Shaman comes through his suffering which is immense inside shaman lifetimes. Most shamans don't even get to die and come back to life, which I was blessed to have even though it still hurts.

 

[Öwnchef]

Most shamans don't even get to die and come back to life, which I was blessed to have even though it still hurts.

I know what you mean. Grandma succeeded so far to kill me. I will never forget it. I can't.

 

[Amur]

I know what you mean. Grandma succeeded so far to kill me. I will never forget it. I can't.

Use the rage for a destructive positive force.