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Spiritual psycosis?

MsMushroom

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Okay, this may be silly but I genuinely want to know others thoughts or experiences.
Long story short I have family history of schizophrenia. I have had a few psychosis episodes involving religion/spirituality (I count magick as a part of this in my identify) while taking edibles.
How do you decipher the difference? Is it just discernment? Im honestly scared to get into things like using gazes/meditation/things that involve and open you to receiving without a physical medium. Please feel free to share your experiences as well! I want to learn from others journeys.
 

oregano

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it is quite a long story

suffice to say i had to completely change my worldview and mode of perception in order to make sense of it

various techniques also helped along the way

you can dm me if you wanna know more
 

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Okay, this may be silly but I genuinely want to know others thoughts or experiences.
Long story short I have family history of schizophrenia. I have had a few psychosis episodes involving religion/spirituality (I count magick as a part of this in my identify) while taking edibles.
How do you decipher the difference? Is it just discernment? Im honestly scared to get into things like using gazes/meditation/things that involve and open you to receiving without a physical medium. Please feel free to share your experiences as well! I want to learn from others journeys.
I have a family history of Schizophrenia. I have relatives going back generations that were declared bearing the gift of Medicine to outright physically restrained due to psychotic impulses deemed by Catholic Priests to be the work of the Devil so they outlawed the Society of Firekeepers of my Tribe for over 150 years. Today, Schizophrenia is monitored and the fear of having bouts or issues would have been exposed if you have ever been checked. Edibles, depending on if they are THC or psilocybin, are "enhancers," (though THC does nothing for me except hate the way I smell afterwards) and can be beneficial- or annoying. My personal practice utilized no substances except drumming and firekeeping.

Take it for what you will. I worked with and around a lot of substances- worked with Schizophrenic Medicine Workers, worked with multiple groups of differing tribes and nations who had their own Medicine and also dealt with the Plastic Shamans who were there for a surreal journey of the good stuff(peyote) they knew nothing about except by reading Leary's Psychedelic Experience.

I am done with using substances except caffeine. If you wish to experience external sensory work, I recommend drumming. Get a big drum and beat it until you achieve your own ecstatic joy. Light a bonfire and call upon your local land spirits. Just be!
 

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Okay, this may be silly but I genuinely want to know others thoughts or experiences.
Long story short I have family history of schizophrenia. I have had a few psychosis episodes involving religion/spirituality (I count magick as a part of this in my identify) while taking edibles.
How do you decipher the difference? Is it just discernment? Im honestly scared to get into things like using gazes/meditation/things that involve and open you to receiving without a physical medium. Please feel free to share your experiences as well! I want to learn from others journeys.
You wont know when you are in a psychosis, simply because of how psychosis works. You have to have somebody external let you know when you are drifting.
 

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I'm schizophrenic. For me, it meant that I had to walk a different path than even my fellow magicians. It was scary at first but over time reading about different occult systems and philosophies, and then mustering the courage to attempt to make contact with "spirits", I got used to it. Now it's at the point where if I start talking about my practice it just pisses people off because I'm not following the rules they think are real and have to be followed. So even amongst other occultists I'm treated like an outcast and told I'm delusional or misleading people.

Frankly, you get used to it. My advice is, trust yourself, even when you might be wrong, even when people call you crazy, and even when it might lead to trouble. I will never submit myself to the thoughts of others and just repress my own mind. I think my own thoughts and speak my own mind as much as possible, and I readily accept the consequences. It's beyond morals and ethics. It's just cause and effect, making choices based on expected outcomes and lived experience. I couldn't care less if people think I'm psychotic or delusional. I care when they use that as an excuse to put the cuffs on me or take away my rights and priviledges. People's opinions are just, whatever, as long as its just talk. All their opinions tell me is how they feel about it and what kind of conversations I can expect to have with them. It just sets the boundary conditions of whatever we are discussing. Which is fine, I appreciate knowing what people can or cannot take seriously.

"Traditionalists" for example, who show signs of self-importance in their elitism about the purity of their practice and it's "authenticity" and effectiveness, tend to not get along with me and tell me I'm psychotic or stupid or any number of other labels that are always pejorative, simply because the research and experimentation I've done goes outside the limits of their chosen framework. So I generally avoid having conversations with such types of people. It gets messy almost immediately, suddenly I'm on trial, and I almost always feel extremely drained by the exchange.

It is 100% your own discernment in my opinion. What you bring with you, in the deepest parts of yourself, is the interface through which your experiences will manifest, through which spirits will try to contact you, and through which you can contact them. If you "normal" and kind of an narcissistic asshole, that's going to get you into far more trouble than if you're neurodivergent but also have some humility and emotional awareness.
 
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