[Help] The Failed Magician

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Where do they end up in the afterlife?
What do they do in normal waking life henceforward?

 

[Öwnchef]

So Mysticism and aspiration to meet the HGA, and with inner alchemy, complete the work? Or is this misplaced lust still?

In the I Ging the concept is DUI, the calendar maker. Mixing fire and water with cheerful serenity. It is the chinese magician.
In alchemy it is the Chymical Wedding.

So you are forming a unity of yourself in the Great Work. The HGA can help to lead you to your other self. A very holy act indeed and in the end you will be One.

 

[KjEno186]

aspiration to meet the HGA

Is that what this is about? You should realize, it could take years to accomplish this task alone. Consider the account by Frater Archer in his book, Holy Daimon. There's a link to a pdf in this book request thread:

Fulfilled Request - Holy Daimon by Frater Archer

https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Daimon-Frater-Acher-ebook/dp/B07HP5C9PR

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[Öwnchef]

Is that what this is about? You should realize, it could take years to accomplish this task alone. Consider the account by Frater Archer in his book, Holy Daimon. There's a link to a pdf in this book request thread:

Fulfilled Request - Holy Daimon by Frater Archer

https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Daimon-Frater-Acher-ebook/dp/B07HP5C9PR

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And what if he is wrong?

 

[Roma]

When I finally understood reincarnation it was a great relief. I did not have to achieve all of my (unknown) work in a single life. So I relaxed and did what was in front of me - meditation and academic study

Recycling is not a human invention

 

[KjEno186]

And what if he is wrong?

If he is wrong, then he's only human.

 

[Roma]

And what if he is wrong?

Quite so. Just because an entity has incarnated as human does not mean its spirituality is constrained by the joint lightbody of Earth humanity

Spiritual Intent is the greatest driver of unfoldment. Spiritual Intent is a peaceful decision made beyond the personality

 

[Öwnchef]

If he is wrong, then he's only human.

Of course he is, failing or not. I asked because a lot of authors that have no clue are prolonging the success to infinity. So they will stay safe from any criticism.
Like Bardon did. Nobody can fullfill his how-to in a lifespan. Nobody ever did.

I am extra careful if someone stretches necessary magical steps without giving a plausible reason.

 

[Öwnchef]

Quite so. Just because an entity has incarnated as human does not mean its spirituality is constrained by the joint lightbody of Earth humanity

Spiritual Intent is the greatest driver of unfoldment. Spiritual Intent is a peaceful decision made beyond the personality

The greed for money can be a great driver, too. So you have to decide whom to trust and whom not. That is very hard without any experience or knowledge.

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Will check out Achers work. I like the writings of his Ive read so far.

 

[hungry_ghost]

Well I doubt the answer is found in some EA Koetting book or whatever it is you kids read nowadays.

 

[Mider2009]

Also you should understand that with our actions we all incur karma and some degree of punishment in the afterlife

it’s just not permanent

 

[Roma]

I have not seen karma work out in the afterlife. Just now I looked at my deceased parents, both of which have modest personal karma, and their personal karma has not changed since their deaths

The karma generated by humans on Earth is mostly an accretion to planetary karma and therefore mostly is worked out on this planet

It is perhaps worth noting that good karma also has to be dealt with. Sometimes we need to let the planet help us - in its own fashion

 

[SkullTraill]

Depends on the paradigm you believe in. If it's hermeticism, then you are just reborn with all your knowledge completely wiped.

 

[NamKra]

I do believe so, if you evoke a demon in the name of the Most High for evil, yes there will be punishment, but with good intend, maybe not? What do yall think?

Do you think "hell" is some kind of business? or what makes upkeeping such a dimension, or plane, "profitable" what is true purpose of it, if its somesort of facility of punishment?

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[hungry_ghost]

Also you should understand that with our actions we all incur karma and some degree of punishment in the afterlife

it’s just not permanent

Are you talking about heaven and hell or something else?

 

[Mider2009]

Are you talking about heaven and hell or something else?

Hell

it Also affects our incarnations

our thoughts do the same

 

[Roma]

There is good karma too. Sometimes others do stuff for us in recompense for our past good deeds.

Do both good and bad karma have to be worked out before we move on?

 

[hungry_ghost]

Hell

it Also affects our incarnations

our thoughts do the same

I don't believe in heaven or hell per say but I pretty much believe the same thing.

 

[Mider2009]

I don't believe in heaven or hell per say but I pretty much believe the same thing.

It just means we create our own heaven or shared heavens...which is why every culture has different versions

same with hell

but both can be for a limited time, there’s a time when one goes beyond...not sure what’s there though

 

[hungry_ghost]

It just means we create our own heaven or shared heavens...which is why every culture has different versions

same with hell

but both can be for a limited time, there’s a time when one goes beyond...not sure what’s there though

I believe there's something like that but when brain activity stops we return to nothingness.

I also believe in reincarnation. For whatever reason it makes sense to me that we're here to learn and grow. So whenever we return I think we pick up where we left off.