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I shave my head during lunar phases. New moon and full moon. Many Theravada Buddhist monks do the same. At least the ones I’ve encountered. Candle spells are best to be practised during the waxing moon from my experience. The waxing is the giving and the waning is the taking away. This can also be used in meditation practise. That’s how I use the moon cycles as of right now. I’d like to hear what others do ?
For myself, the shadow of the phases of Venus are attributed to Lilith, with the sunlit side Eve. The gist of the attribution as aspects of the archetypal feminine in a modern Women Who Run With the Wolves syncretism.
Reattributing Lucifer/Prometheus to Mercury shadow/light phases whose planetary elongation matches nautical dawn aurora in my viewing to be renamed as Lightbringer. Renaming Venus as Nightkeeper for the planet's greater elongation that goes to astronomical twilight. Lightkeeper is also an option.
The Moon shadow for Hecate.
What is going on with 'underfoot ' ( at IC - Immum Coeli ) ?
I was about to post some interesting Moon observations , so I will do that here .
When Moon is directly beneath the observers position on earth it effects nature to a strong extent . All good fishermen know this . A fishing 'Sol-Luna Chart' will show you ( it's also applicable to other things , like hunting ) the best times for fishing . They are when the Moon is at one of the four stations ( Moon rise , Moon overhead , Moon set and Moon underfoot : 0 , 90, 180 & 270 deg . ) and particularly so when the Sun is at one of those stations at the same time . The best combinations seem to be Moon underfoot and Sunset or Sunrise .
As in older astrology ( and by 'logic' ) the only 'real ' dynamic is the angular relationship between planets . This seems to be the factor at work here . We could say it is actually a response to tides , But I observe this in my fish tank and fish pond as well .... they are not tidal . At these times fish want to feed , sometimes in a near frenzy . Other times they can float around looking at the food .... Nah . So ... if you have been fishing and never got a bite ... nothing , it could be a timing issue .
There are also Moon dynamics and cycles we are familiar with , the obvious Moon phase ( Synodic )cycle and some notice the cycle of its path through the sky being lower or higher (inclination / declination ; the Tropical Cycle ) .
But there are many other cycles that are used in natural agriculture ( I used to work making soil preparations for Bio-dynamic agriculture ).
The main Moon cycles used there are ;
The above one - 'Tropical Cycle '. The Sidereal Cycle - which sign the Moon is in . Moon Nodes cycle . Apogee and Perigee ( Moon close or far ) . Moon opposition Saturn Cycle . Most of these are around the 27 - 28 day cycle , the Synodic is near 30 , the Node cycle 13 . 5 .
There are other dynamics like the A P cycle - when the Moon crosses the ecliptic no agricultural work should be done ( 2 - 6 hrs either side ) .
Another dynamic is that between the Moon and the cow . The earliest relationship seems to be Hathor - 'The Mistress of the Sky ' ; the Left Eye of Ra ( the Sun was the right eye , the Moon the left eye ) .
The observant may notice when living in a rural area or travelling through one , sometimes the cows are busy eating and pother times they are laying down 'sleeping' or chewing cud ( which is a near 'sleep' trance like state ) they do this in cycles and this also is effected by the Moon cycles ;
One concept is that the other astrological forces 'come into ' Earth via the Moon . Perhaps we could liken it to a big receiving dish that relays the signal to earth .
On the Tree of Life the Moon position is that last phase before material creation .
In psychology it represents the emotions and sub/un conscious .
In my Tree of Life adapted to psychology , the Moon sits , as the unconscious , with the 3 inner / personal plaets around it in a triangle ;
I shave my head during lunar phases. New moon and full moon. Many Theravada Buddhist monks do the same. At least the ones I’ve encountered. Candle spells are best to be practised during the waxing moon from my experience. The waxing is the giving and the waning is the taking away. This can also be used in meditation practise. That’s how I use the moon cycles as of right now. I’d like to hear what others do ?
There is European lore about hair and the moon. It was believed that the phases of the moon play a role in hair cutting practices. Cutting hair during waxing moon just after the new moon will encourage to grow faster and thicker. Cutting hair during waning moon could cause bad luck. I believe it was France, but I can't find it back anymore.
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@Firetree I did read about this because you mentioned, it is mentioned too in regarding to hunting. A very interesting thing to mention is in this relation that some moon connected goddesses were goddesses connected with hunting too, think of Diana. .... thank you for sharing.
My Xabala currently adapts the mostly gibbous Mars phases(and moons) with its traditional archetypal masculine complement to Venus with its phases to Lilith/Eve similarly syncretized to my post above. Adam as Gardener(farmer) the light and the shadow Seth(astronomy cycles), connection to the celestial equator, Boötes, and particular guide stars stars linking the celestial poles. The moons of Mars sync following modern living myth to Cain and Abel attributions as collective theory psychology and ethics.
There's adjustments still to be made, like possibly changing the names, as ores are reduced then refined. New discoveries.
My Xabala currently adapts the mostly gibbous Mars phases(and moons) with its traditional archetypal masculine complement to Venus with its phases to Lilith/Eve similarly syncretized to my post above. Adam as Gardener(farmer) the light and the shadow Seth(astronomy cycles), connection to the celestial equator, Boötes, and particular guide stars stars linking the celestial poles. The moons of Mars sync following modern living myth to Cain and Abel attributions as collective theory psychology and ethics.
There's adjustments still to be made, like possibly changing the names, as ores are reduced then refined. New discoveries.
Interesting . Some more ideas ; you mentioned above renaming Venus as nightkeeper .... I have a different rename - Vulcan ( check Venus physical properties , processes and atmosphere ). Now the name Venus is free to be used for our planet (instead of calling it 'Dirt ' ) which is better suited as Venus is deeply connected to life, nature, animals, fertility , desire . Earth ( Venus ) sits in orbit between Mars and 'Vulcan' ( mythological Venus was married to Vulcan and was 'wanton' with Mars) - torn between the two - indicative of our fascination with war and polluting technology and weapons making .... looking 'out there' for love ( Venus ) when we had it here all along .
But by placing the Moon in the position of the unconscious and placing the inner planets around it in a triangle we then get ; a base line of Mars - Venus ( active - receptive and many other polarities ) , we could even say they represent the basic mode of 'relationship ' and male - female . But at the apex is the androgynous Mercury that does not sit on this polarized base but above it . It can 'piece the Moon sphere ' and link the Moon to the Sun ( part of 'the Great Work' ) Mercury , being psychopomp can delve into the depths of the unconscious and also relay to the conscious and even up to the superconscious , and can work also as a 'mediator ' between those worlds and between the Mars / Venus conflicts . - handy advice for relationships ! Observe and respond from the Mercury perspective , dont react to and fro on 'the base line ' .
Interesting . Some more ideas ; you mentioned above renaming Venus as nightkeeper .... I have a different rename - Vulcan ( check Venus physical properties , processes and atmosphere ). Now the name Venus is free to be used for our planet (instead of calling it 'Dirt ' ) which is better suited as Venus is deeply connected to life, nature, animals, fertility , desire . Earth ( Venus ) sits in orbit between Mars and 'Vulcan' ( mythological Venus was married to Vulcan and was 'wanton' with Mars) - torn between the two - indicative of our fascination with war and polluting technology and weapons making .... looking 'out there' for love ( Venus ) when we had it here all along .
But by placing the Moon in the position of the unconscious and placing the inner planets around it in a triangle we then get ; a base line of Mars - Venus ( active - receptive and many other polarities ) , we could even say they represent the basic mode of 'relationship ' and male - female . But at the apex is the androgynous Mercury that does not sit on this polarized base but above it . It can 'piece the Moon sphere ' and link the Moon to the Sun ( part of 'the Great Work' ) Mercury , being psychopomp can delve into the depths of the unconscious and also relay to the conscious and even up to the superconscious , and can work also as a 'mediator ' between those worlds and between the Mars / Venus conflicts . - handy advice for relationships ! Observe and respond from the Mercury perspective , dont react to and fro on 'the base line ' .
Many similarities even though my model has a more traditional(if modern hermetic could even be called that) approach where Earth is the place of manifestation of hyperdimensional archetypal forces that behave as defined by astronomical relationships that contribute to the creation of biological life. Geocentric, if not strictly traditional, for the observer.
The forge and the sword for Venus(interior planet) and Mars(exterior) to sustain the lands for the immortal ruler(Sun) representing the soul that reincarnates as life. Mercury as psychopomp unchanged.
The Moon(observer planet satellite) representing the prism which lights paths for these forces into diverse manifestation. Neutrinos and other cosmic energy with gravity formed primordial egregores of the cosmic mind across dimensions in an evolving hylozoic model that can form life on other planets rather than static neoclassical transcendental model of creation on life only on Earth.