The urge to start a group

[Bawonschild]

Anyone else feel the urge to start a group only to realize you chose a solitary path for a reason? I.e I practice Anti-cosmic Satanism, and necromancy.
Part of me has the urge to start an order or study group of sorts. But at the same time, I don't feel like dealing with peoples ego's either. That and I tend to think the dead are better company.

 

[nieblaverde]

Hi! I can honestly relate to this so much. We are a extremely diverse group with their own practices, methods, and even differing beliefs. I hope you find you people!

 

[Morell]

I had an urge to be part of the group for quite some time. Did not do much good for me except guiding me towards some of the books. I can definitely relate.

 

[Live_Free_Or_Die_Hard]

Anyone else feel the urge to start a group only to realize you chose a solitary path for a reason? I.e I practice Anti-cosmic Satanism, and necromancy.
Part of me has the urge to start an order or study group of sorts. But at the same time, I don't feel like dealing with peoples ego's either. That and I tend to think the dead are better company.

The general population have not overcome their ego. It’s not their fault. We live in a reality where they are obsessed with self image, materialism, and the greatest evil: money. There are some of us out there that claim to be without ego, but in reality the greatest war we will ever fight is with ourselves. There will always be a minuscule amount of ego that will try to grow within us, but we need to keep it in check. It’s very much like a tidal wave that we need to balance.

 

[Bawonschild]

The general population have not overcome their ego. It’s not their fault. We live in a reality where they are obsessed with self image, materialism, and the greatest evil: money. There are some of us out there that claim to be without ego, but in reality the greatest war we will ever fight is with ourselves. There will always be a minuscule amount of ego that will try to grow within us, but we need to keep it in check. It’s very much like a tidal wave that we need to balance.

What is life without the constant balance of the libra scale that is our path, souls, and very existence.

 

[Anziel_Merkaba]

I live with the understanding that Hell is other people, and as such whenever I get the urge to try and start some collaborative thing, I strangle those feelings in the cradle because I know it will only end poorly. Not just with magic stuff either, this is a whole thing that I really don't want to start ranting about because it'll only piss me off thinking about all the bullshit I've dealt with as a for-hire freelance coder and 3d modeler.

Point is, it's not worth the effort unless you can find a community of like-minded schizos that aren't completely flaky or glow in the dark. It's not about egos or anything, just that trying to start a work group with more than 2 people is like herding cats with commitment issues and a drug problem.

 

[beardedeldridge]

Oh hell no! (I mean I used too, occasionally entertain the idea.) But I’ve long ago realized that I’d rather focus on my practice than on the insufferable personalities that groups inevitably attract.

-Eld

 

[SpearOfTheWoodAmphithere]

Anyone else feel the urge to start a group only to realize you chose a solitary path for a reason? I.e I practice Anti-cosmic Satanism, and necromancy.
Part of me has the urge to start an order or study group of sorts. But at the same time, I don't feel like dealing with peoples ego's either. That and I tend to think the dead are better company.

Lot of negativity on the subject it seems, reasonably so as I find myself needing my own space, time, and energy, on and with things, but maybe you could make a Journal post with your intention or ideas of group work and cast a light magnet on it to attract those that might align and resonate well on a soul level with you and your intentions of work.

Kinda like a more dynamic grouping where the thread can be a watched place for those interested or wishing to participate at each of the individuals own pace. I feel like multiple practices could be woven and bridged in some sort of naturally happening way that would be the co-operation and manifestation of the grouped work on the note of whatever you have planned or comes to grow from the space. Maybe even doing more cast specific or preparation work on a profile post if it goes that far. Who knows you might attract some acolytes or fellow magi that could expand your work.

Point I'm trying to make is that the 7 beings that responded including myself aligned on some level, and that being 7 I would not exactly call it a coincidence. Although a more independent and isolative number, which i think we're expressing with our collective distrust/distaste/skepticism, you make it 8 so there maybe something here that could be played with and grown into something.

You have me personally curious on your philosophy and the necromancy piece and I might be willing to make contributions of energy, work, etc. Listen to your highest calling/wishs ofc but you might have something if the collective takes a slower, each self valuing their own energy, time, etc, and not over expending.

Feels tense, speculative, speaking this forward, but food for the thought.

Well Wishes ,

 

[nutmeg]

I had a strong pull towards group settings a few years ago and was left disappointed. A lot of people in these orders and lodges literally were just so obsessed with money and power but not in terms of spiritual mastery or even spiritual hygiene. The path that many of them wanted to take to be successful involved exploitation and questionable practices for the most part. Even outside of the morality argument many of them just had no personality. I only kept in contact with one, i'm a solo practitioner now but I do keep one lodge membership active mainly because I had worked with the egregore with success in the past.

Notwithstanding the above I was a part of a group on another forum and it went well, they then moved to a discord group but then for some reason I wasn't really active in the discord. I do think we could start something here if even just an active group discussion.

 

[thepolestar]

Anyone else feel the urge to start a group only to realize you chose a solitary path for a reason? I.e I practice Anti-cosmic Satanism, and necromancy.
Part of me has the urge to start an order or study group of sorts. But at the same time, I don't feel like dealing with peoples ego's either. That and I tend to think the dead are better company.

I deal with this inner tussle a lot. I haven't had the greatest experiences with occult organizations/organized groups but I miss having community.

At the same time, now my practice is so individualized and syncretic that it's better for me to focus on drawing in a handful of like-minded people who are weird the same way I'm weird.

I don't even listen to occult podcasts anymore. Does anyone else feel the same way about these witchy/occult podcasts? Like these people are a hivemind with the same talking points, the same old perspectives, and complete tunnel vision: they can't see beyond their system's egregore AND the mainstream "political correctness" egregore. There's no real fresh research or deeper discussion on these podcasts. Plus they keep inviting the same influencers to discuss magic.

 

[nutmeg]

I deal with this inner tussle a lot. I haven't had the greatest experiences with occult organizations/organized groups but I miss having community.

At the same time, now my practice is so individualized and syncretic that it's better for me to focus on drawing in a handful of like-minded people who are weird the same way I'm weird.

I don't even listen to occult podcasts anymore. Does anyone else feel the same way about these witchy/occult podcasts? Like these people are a hivemind with the same talking points, the same old perspectives, and complete tunnel vision: they can't see beyond their system's egregore AND the mainstream "political correctness" egregore. There's no real fresh research or deeper discussion on these podcasts. Plus they keep inviting the same influencers to discuss magic.

Well said! I also wonder how many of these occult podcasters are actually occult practitioners, many seem very shallow and seem to be cosplaying occultism like some sort of fad like ego or goth.