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The uselessness of God, Gods, Angels, Ancestors and Spirits

Robert Ramsay

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They exist. Just they aren't really 'gods'. Theyre egregores. Their capacities and powers are more limited than what people usually ascribe to them.
This is pretty much how I see it (except I might have a longer discussion about what "exists" means in this scenario :D )
While I take Crowley to task for many things, his advice here (below) is a pretty good place to stay even when you reach journeyman-level magician. After that your impossible things have been integrated and you won't go into spiritual psychosis... too much.
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. If you don't want to strain your brain too much, take Crowley's very practical advice.

I also think some advice from the Principia Discordia might be useful :D :

GP: Is Eris true?
M2: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it.
 

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Nice, Robert Ramsay!

Oh! And if any more trad magicians think aliens are totally stupid and have no place in magic.... by some accounts perhaps one of the most powerful magicians of the 20th century might have been Ted Owens who got his powers (if I recall his praxis) by praying to the UFOs.

The PK Man: A True Story of Mind Over Matter (2000 )
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Nice, Robert Ramsay!

Oh! And if any more trad magicians think aliens are totally stupid and have no place in magic.... by some accounts perhaps one of the most powerful magicians of the 20th century might have been Ted Owens who got his powers (if I recall his praxis) by praying to the UFOs.

The PK Man: A True Story of Mind Over Matter (2000 )
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One man's godform is another man's alien :)
 

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Okay, let's talk calmly. The true God is only one God. He created the universe from nothing with His power and knowledge, and He created us from Adam and Eve. When God warned Adam and his wife in Paradise, He told them not to listen to the words of Satan, for he is your enemy who wants to lead you astray from My path. If you eat from the tree, which is, incidentally, “wheat,” you will fall to the ground and suffer greatly. I believe that His words are clear and strict. So what is the cause of misery on earth? It is the struggle for livelihood and the competition for luxury. One Bugatti is not enough. Here, as the philosophers have summarized, we are in the last world, where the universe is corrupt, and even the enormous creatures, the suns and galaxies themselves, fall and die. What is their sin? Man, they are in their own world, where they die happy after fulfilling their mission on Earth. So why do you die sad? Wipe the tears from your eyes, for they will not help. The food chain imposes its dominance. You eat meat, or the lions will eat you... Disease does not afflict us alone, but all living creatures, and even metals suffer from rust and corrosion. Have you heeded God's warnings? I warn you, they will work even if you do not know them... And that is the problem. Those who claim to have the ability to see the future are the ones who must answer why they failed... They will often say that the reason for their failure is that they cannot see and understand all the relationships between all those billions of stars in order to understand the future. Those who claim that God speaks to them and tells them the future are the ones who must answer. You will not find it; you will only find empty justifications devoid of real substance. But isn't there a philosophical solution that can enable us to avoid falling into all these calamities? The answer is that we must have a strong health system that can withstand shocks.

As for artificial intelligence, ha ha ha, how can we not know about it when scientists of magic and spirituality talk about the intelligence of every planet and star and how they work in hidden harmony with the movement of the universe and respond to you? We, the scientists of spirituality and magic, were the first to talk about them thousands of years ago. In the film Apocalyptica. The entity destroyed all weapons and disabled them, wanting to declare that the Earth no longer needed them after it was unified under one person. I think his vision is somewhat correct. I await your response.
 
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I await your response.
How am I supposed to respond to that? lol

I've been to the source of the universe while out of body, and it doesn't comport with your religious dogma. There's no floaty guy who created everything. Things just emanate from the source because they do, just as trees grow from soil (not the best analogy but itll have to do). Trees don't sit around worshipping soil or attempting to mold their behavior to soil's expectations. Soil has no expectations. It's time to get over this god idea.
 
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