Why are abrahamic religions like Judaism, Christianity and Islam so hateful against polytheism?

[barb80]

So, verdict? Am I right about stating that abrahamic religions do hate polytheists?

These so-called religions are really political/cultural power hubs used to oppress and are against any plurality of thought.

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Its that these so-called mainstream religions are really political entities. They rule through oppression.

 

[HoldAll]

I think the pagan concept of religion was totally different. While monotheists were convinced that their god was universal for all mankind, pagans saw the gods of other nations simply as different from their own and didn't deny their very existence. Their gods were part of their own cultural identity and understood as alien to foreigners. "This is us cultured Greeks/Romans believing in Zeus/Jupiter, those are the dirty barbarians who believe in their gods X, Y and Z, they're just not sophisticated enough for our Olympians, just compare their primitive shrines to our magnificent temples!" So the Greeks and Roman rather saw their religion as a means to distance themselves from other cultures they regarded as inferior and thus had no interest in proselytizing.

 

[barb80]

I think the pagan concept of religion was totally different. While monotheists were convinced that their god was universal for all mankind, pagans saw the gods of other nations simply as different from their own and didn't deny their very existence. Their gods were part of their own cultural identity and understood as alien to foreigners. "This is us cultured Greeks/Romans believing in Zeus/Jupiter, those are the dirty barbarians who believe in their gods X, Y and Z, they're just not sophisticated enough for our Olympians, just compare their primitive shrines to our magnificent temples!" So the Greeks and Roman rather saw their religion as a means to distance themselves from other cultures they regarded as inferior and thus had no interest in proselytizing.

very interesting take on it. ive always been facinated that in spite of the brutal methods of some main religions people were still prepared to become witches etc even risking their own lives. the japanese shinto is interesting because it seems more personal but im not well read on it.

 

[ElectricEgregore]

It's just the birthpains we are witnessing imo, Jason Louv also warned of this a year or three ago. We have a true revival of theocracy and aaaall the 'good stuff' we remember about it, with burning witches and pagans. To a degree. It already started.

Have a look at the mural beneath the- slightly significant- eiffel tower. And then check the other works of the artist- THAT'S the future, for at least one continent...

This big narrative has been introduced- of the 'great awakening' against 'the great reset' (Alexander Dugin), basically a union against the oppressor, and who would argue against that? basically it has the narrative that especially the west, with it's moral decay (that was forced and funded) has to be 'stopped' by the righteous and godly people. Which it will be.And funnily enough with big help from atheists- that makes sense in a way because- drumroll- it's about collectivism. Who cares what it's called when the effects are the same?

Pretty easy math, create egalitarian atheism and introduce extreme norms, create hatred by worsening living conditions and collision of dominant/totalitarian & submissive/egalitarian worldviews, take prophecy and the moral high ground to get rid of the mess- that is the bred racial tension and cultural conflicts- and let the colliding parties weaken each other & then force your system and norms on the conquered fools that are left after the purge.

The whole thing was from the start about collectivism- conquering- It was the proto-cultural-revolution. It was about erasure of old traditions and cultures, replacing it with a different paradigm that has - how convenient- a prophecy endgame. Welcome the savior into your arms people!
You just have to burn it all down to the ground and give it to the dragon queen- she just want's to break the wheel m'kaay?

Then just play out the parties through some illusions and boom bang here and there and 'poof' Ordo ab chao

 

[PolishTruthSeeker]

It's just the birthpains we are witnessing imo, Jason Louv also warned of this a year or three ago. We have a true revival of theocracy and aaaall the 'good stuff' we remember about it, with burning witches and pagans. To a degree. It already started.

Have a look at the mural beneath the- slightly significant- eiffel tower. And then check the other works of the artist- THAT'S the future, for at least one continent...

This big narrative has been introduced- of the 'great awakening' against 'the great reset' (Alexander Dugin), basically a union against the oppressor, and who would argue against that? basically it has the narrative that especially the west, with it's moral decay (that was forced and funded) has to be 'stopped' by the righteous and godly people. Which it will be.And funnily enough with big help from atheists- that makes sense in a way because- drumroll- it's about collectivism. Who cares what it's called when the effects are the same?

Pretty easy math, create egalitarian atheism and introduce extreme norms, create hatred by worsening living conditions and collision of dominant/totalitarian & submissive/egalitarian worldviews, take prophecy and the moral high ground to get rid of the mess- that is the bred racial tension and cultural conflicts- and let the colliding parties weaken each other & then force your system and norms on the conquered fools that are left after the purge.

The whole thing was from the start about collectivism- conquering- It was the proto-cultural-revolution. It was about erasure of old traditions and cultures, replacing it with a different paradigm that has - how convenient- a prophecy endgame. Welcome the savior into your arms people!
You just have to burn it all down to the ground and give it to the dragon queen- she just want's to break the wheel m'kaay?

Then just play out the parties through some illusions and boom bang here and there and 'poof' Ordo ab chao

It seems the political elites are planning to genocide pagans and other polytheists and install either sharia laws or even (done by Reagan) Noahide laws.

 

[Morell]

It seems the political elites are planning to genocide pagans and other polytheists and install either sharia laws or even (done by Reagan) Noahide laws.

Where did you get that nonsense from?

 

[PolishTruthSeeker]

Where did you get that nonsense from?

By reading a lot of articles, books and noticing some uptick in inclusivity towards Muslims, but not Pagans. Period.

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Lots of religious Abrahamic books preach to kill idolaters. Is there a mystical implication around it?

 

[Morell]

By reading a lot of articles, books and noticing some uptick in inclusivity towards Muslims, but not Pagans. Period.

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Lots of religious Abrahamic books preach to kill idolaters. Is there a mystical implication around it?

Yeah, there is mystical implication. When many people die in war, a lot of death energy is released and the world changes. It's like it is reborn in new, different form. Every war is a transition. A new world born bathing in blood, like all of us. But that is not understood by Abrahamics. And they are frustrated because with every war, with every war the world evolves and they are less and less relevant, so they are more and more scared and aggressive. Despair and fear of the possibility that they will no longer be needed in the world. So through wars they make themselves needed, which pushes the world to keep evolving further. A dead end slowly coming to them... Unlike Pagans.

Christianity freaks out that the faiths that they thought extinct are revived just like Jesus, killing his uniqueness as a god. We pagans are not that easy to erase. I can't even imagine how hard it is for Pagans in Islamic countries but they are there, they are not erased despite Islam either. So don't succumb into fear. What is it that you fear, actually?

Besides, why does the world need to know that you are a pagan? You owe it perhaps some work and your peace, but not your truth. You do not owe it your soul. You do not ow it yourself.

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Have you seen how the latest Rapture in USA went? How these Christians get kicked in stomach by the fact that their faith was wrong after they did so much to prepare for it? (some sold cars, even houses and gave away their savings) Sort of poetic justice is served. After opresing others they end in trash by their own deeds based on their faith.

 

[PolishTruthSeeker]

Yeah, there is mystical implication. When many people die in war, a lot of death energy is released and the world changes. It's like it is reborn in new, different form. Every war is a transition. A new world born bathing in blood, like all of us. But that is not understood by Abrahamics. And they are frustrated because with every war, with every war the world evolves and they are less and less relevant, so they are more and more scared and aggressive. Despair and fear of the possibility that they will no longer be needed in the world. So through wars they make themselves needed, which pushes the world to keep evolving further. A dead end slowly coming to them... Unlike Pagans.

Christianity freaks out that the faiths that they thought extinct are revived just like Jesus, killing his uniqueness as a god. We pagans are not that easy to erase. I can't even imagine how hard it is for Pagans in Islamic countries but they are there, they are not erased despite Islam either. So don't succumb into fear. What is it that you fear, actually?

Besides, why does the world need to know that you are a pagan? You owe it perhaps some work and your peace, but not your truth. You do not owe it your soul. You do not ow it yourself.

Post automatically merged: Yesterday at 5:25 PM

Have you seen how the latest Rapture in USA went? How these Christians get kicked in stomach by the fact that their faith was wrong after they did so much to prepare for it? (some sold cars, even houses and gave away their savings) Sort of poetic justice is served. After opresing others they end in trash by their own deeds based on their faith.

Judeo-christianity is already conqering Palestine, while either Muslims feel persecuted or as Quran said "no mercy for the infidels and kuffars".
Anyway, I have my reasons to protest against the abrahamic monopolization.

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Christianity freaks out that the faiths that they thought extinct are revived just like Jesus, killing his uniqueness as a god. We pagans are not that easy to erase. I can't even imagine how hard it is for Pagans in Islamic countries but they are there, they are not erased despite Islam either. So don't succumb into fear. What is it that you fear, actually?

Marginalization and outlawing of other beliefs than monotheistic.

 

[Ziran]

Why are abrahamic religions like Judaism ... so hateful against polytheism?

I beg your pardon, and with the highest respect, this is a common misconception.

Judaism, as it's written in the Torah and as it's practiced by the majority of adherents, is not hateful to polytheism. It is very much a live and let live religion.

Best example in written scripture comes from the book of Micah, chapter 4, specifically verse 5.

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כי כל־העמים ילכו איש בשם אלהיו ואנחנו נלך בשם־יהוה אלהינו לעולם ועד׃​

For let all people walk everyone in the name of his gods, ( "אלהיו" is plural ) and we will walk in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever.​

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The misconception, "Judaism is hateful towards polytheism", is founded on a false assumption and or ignorance of the reasons Why the Jewish people were commanded to exterminate the 7 "unholy nations". The reason is given in Deuteronomy. It's not because they are poly-theists. See below:

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12:29​

כי־יכרית יהוה אלהיך את־הגוים אשר אתה בא־שמה לרשת אותם מפניך וירשת אתם וישבת בארצם׃​

When the Lord your God shall cut off the nations from before you, where you go to dispossess them, and live in their land;​

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12:30​

השמר לך פן־תנקש אחריהם אחרי השמדם מפניך ופן־תדרש לאלהיהם לאמר איכה יעבדו הגוים האלה את־אלהיהם ואעשה־כן גם־אני׃​

Take heed to yourself that you be not snared by following them, after they are destroyed from before you; and that you inquire not about their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? that I may also do likewise.​

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12:31​

לא־תעשה כן ליהוה אלהיך כי כל־תועבת יהוה אשר שנא עשו לאלהיהם כי גם את־בניהם ואת־בנתיהם ישרפו באש לאלהיהם׃​

You shall not do so to the Lord your God; for every abomination to the Lord, which he hates, have they done to their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burned in the fire to their gods.​

Every abomination: rape, murder, kidnapping... burning their children in the fire. <--- that's the reason. Not polytheism.

As an aspiring occultist, I want to know the political implications of it.

The best example comes from the conflict in India between Hindu and Muslims. It's relatively recent history; well documented.

 

[PolishTruthSeeker]

I beg your pardon, and with the highest respect, this is a common misconception.

Judaism, as it's written in the Torah and as it's practiced by the majority of adherents, is not hateful to polytheism. It is very much a live and let live religion.

Best example in written scripture comes from the book of Micah, chapter 4, specifically verse 5.

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כי כל־העמים ילכו איש בשם אלהיו ואנחנו נלך בשם־יהוה אלהינו לעולם ועד׃​

For let all people walk everyone in the name of his gods, ( "אלהיו" is plural ) and we will walk in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever.​

​

The misconception, "Judaism is hateful towards polytheism", is founded on a false assumption and or ignorance of the reasons Why the Jewish people were commanded to exterminate the 7 "unholy nations". The reason is given in Deuteronomy. It's not because they are poly-theists. See below:

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12:29​

כי־יכרית יהוה אלהיך את־הגוים אשר אתה בא־שמה לרשת אותם מפניך וירשת אתם וישבת בארצם׃​

When the Lord your God shall cut off the nations from before you, where you go to dispossess them, and live in their land;​

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12:30​

השמר לך פן־תנקש אחריהם אחרי השמדם מפניך ופן־תדרש לאלהיהם לאמר איכה יעבדו הגוים האלה את־אלהיהם ואעשה־כן גם־אני׃​

Take heed to yourself that you be not snared by following them, after they are destroyed from before you; and that you inquire not about their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? that I may also do likewise.​

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12:31​

לא־תעשה כן ליהוה אלהיך כי כל־תועבת יהוה אשר שנא עשו לאלהיהם כי גם את־בניהם ואת־בנתיהם ישרפו באש לאלהיהם׃​

You shall not do so to the Lord your God; for every abomination to the Lord, which he hates, have they done to their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burned in the fire to their gods.​

Every abomination: rape, murder, kidnapping... burning their children in the fire. <--- that's the reason. Not polytheism.



The best example comes from the conflict in India between Hindu and Muslims. It's relatively recent history; well documented.

If you read it better, you would know that polytheism is considered "idolatry", which is the gravest sin in Jewish theology.