Why are abrahamic religions like Judaism, Christianity and Islam so hateful against polytheism?

[Ziran]

In Gaza, the passionate objectors ( militants ) amassed along the perimeter, naturally, to repel the invasion. Central Gaza is, and has been, a rare pocket of political and religious moderates within Palestine. That’s where you'll find, food, water and resources. That's where Isreal went to start an i terim government. Here's a recent video, from al-jahzeera.

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Videos like this, showing food in the markets, have been circulated by the IDF for almost a year, but most deny them, calling it propaganda. Hopefully, since this is from Al-jahzeera, the general public will start to realize how far their perceptions are from ... complete.

Beyond that, since the ruling by the ICJ in 2024, Israel has been documenting the humanitarian aid distribution on a daily basis. See below:

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If this is true, then it can't be ethnic cleansing... it's something else.

 

[Beyond Everything]

100% of the people on ventilators in our local hospital died. They didn't die because the hospital was overwhelmed, they died because of a mass mania demanded that they be given lethal treatments that they didn't actually need.

You sound like you know precisely zero about any of this. I'm not going down a retarded rabbit hole of social media propaganda with you.

Regardless of whether it was real or good, the herd thought thing was undeniable. I saw 95% of pagans immediately define themselves as hard-core Leftists and start filtering out anyone among their ranks who was not sufficiently left wing. I didn't see Christians demanding everyone wear a cross, but I did see pagans demanding everyone get shots and wear masks and deprive those who refuse of their fundamental rights.

People behave in groups. Big revelation. The point was that comparing temporary pandemic restrictions to the totalistic power the church had over centuries is moronic. Or forcing a young girl to give birth, for that matter.

 

[Faria]

People behave in groups. Big revelation.

Yes. For 200,000+ years, the people behaving badly in big groups were pagan.

About 2000 years ago, the big groups became Christian. The bulk of what we would recognize as Judaism came from about that time, and Islam centuries later. So most oppression, evil, and senseless slaughter has been done by pagans.

It's not a religion thing, it's just a people thing.

 

[Beyond Everything]

If this is true, then it can't be ethnic cleansing... it's something else.

I don't know what to tell you. If you won't read what is typed, I can't help

I said most israelis support ethnic cleansing.
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A new poll conducted by Penn State University found that 82 percent of Israelis support the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, coinciding with an ongoing effort by Tel Aviv to forcibly displace and relocate the strip’s population.

The poll was conducted in March and published by Haaretz on 22 May, surveying 1,005 Jewish Israelis.

In response to a question on whether the Israeli army should act in accordance with the biblical story of the Israelites and their eradication of all of Jericho’s inhabitants during the conquest of the city, 47 percent of Israelis responded “Yes.”

Sixty-five percent of the respondents also believe that there is a “contemporary incarnation of Amalek.” Ninety-three percent of the 65 percent that “the commandment to wipe out the memory of Amalek is also relevant to that modern-day Amalek.”
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As far as food, I'm sure everyone go look at the news over the past months and see the situation. It's hardly flattering for Israel

 

[MorganBlack]

Speaking personally, my politics leans left-wing anarchism, so during the pandemic it was beyond fucking weird to me to be standing next to libertarians and conservatives for basic human rights like bodily autonomy and medical privacy. Well met, but at the time totalitarianism makes for strange bedfellows ,all in the effort then to fight against The Assistance, the neoLibCon foot soldiers and Karens for the US oligarchy. (Not that the Right is perfect either)

For folks in other countries, in the US, a woman's right to abortion is predicated on the right to medical privacy, something that never occurred to all the white feminists yelling for OTHER peoples' human rights to be stripped.

Also for non-Americans, the U.S. has a terrible track record conducting medical experiments on brown people , so of course the Latino and Black populations both had very historical reasons to be highly suspicious of the U.S. neoliberalcon - oligarchic power structure that was pushing insufficiently tested solutionism at that time .

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The best way to get anyone to chimp out is to start jumping up and down and saying those horrible people over there are coming to kill you, be it the Abramhamist boogie man that haunts your fever dreams, or whomever.

This is not the place to fully adjudicate all the shenanigans of the pandemic response, but the 6-foot social distancing rules was adopted by the thoroughly validated and scientific standard of cribbing planetary level government policy from a 14-year-old American school girl. Laura Glass's 2006 science fair project on disease modeling, which was influenced Bush-era plans and CDC guidelines without rigorous scientific validation. Thanks, Karens! Well done. *slow golf clap *

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[PolishTruthSeeker]

Guys... I'm more favorable of paganism than abrahamism (although it can get cancerous, if pagans proselytize as well) and I think Covid lockdowns were traumatizing and hospitals were clogged because they treated the Covid virus first and then the heart attacks, cancers, etc.
Greetings from Poland, 200K unnecessary deaths.

 

[Beyond Everything]

Guys... I'm more favorable of paganism than abrahamism (although it can get cancerous, if pagans proselytize as well) and I think Covid lockdowns were traumatizing and hospitals were clogged because they treated the Covid virus first and then the heart attacks, cancers, etc.

No, no, according to the cosmic geniuses here, covid didnt kill people- just the treament of covid. And it's perfectly ok to infect other people with a dangerous illness if you feel your flimsy autonomy is destroyed by wearing a mask in response to an airborne plague.

Islam and Christianity have the conversion of others built into the ground of their sick systems. That isn't the case for Paganism, and egregore-influenced people can stomp their feet all they want but thems the facts.

 

[Yazata]

perfectly ok to infect other people with a dangerous illness if

You can only infect someone with the disease if you have it, right?
This thread got way off track. Make a new thread about Covid if you want.

 

[PolishTruthSeeker]

You can only infect someone with the disease if you have it, right?
This thread got way off track. Make a new thread about Covid if you want.

I second this, otherwise it borders on obsession.

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I don't know what to tell you. If you won't read what is typed, I can't help

I said most israelis support ethnic cleansing.
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A new poll conducted by Penn State University found that 82 percent of Israelis support the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, coinciding with an ongoing effort by Tel Aviv to forcibly displace and relocate the strip’s population.

The poll was conducted in March and published by Haaretz on 22 May, surveying 1,005 Jewish Israelis.

In response to a question on whether the Israeli army should act in accordance with the biblical story of the Israelites and their eradication of all of Jericho’s inhabitants during the conquest of the city, 47 percent of Israelis responded “Yes.”

Sixty-five percent of the respondents also believe that there is a “contemporary incarnation of Amalek.” Ninety-three percent of the 65 percent that “the commandment to wipe out the memory of Amalek is also relevant to that modern-day Amalek.”
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As far as food, I'm sure everyone go look at the news over the past months and see the situation. It's hardly flattering for Israel

That's your nation's (or in many cases religion's) problem. Poland doesn't wanna engage with this toxicity for a reason. I get it, Polish-Jewish relations deemed as difficult, acc. to the media, but sincerely I don't care.

 

[MorganBlack]

Agreed. I have no interest in debating the pandemic response. It's off topic, and there is simply not space.

A polytheist in this thread said they were of the opinion monotheists were more controlling. I pointed out all my pagan friends got plenty controlling very recently, and exceedingly hateful.

I'm a pantheist and left-wing anarchist, and I don't care if someone is a polytheist or monotheist. All good. I am more happy to debate, and have a lively discussion with anyone who looks at the data and information, and reaches an honest and different conclusion about almost anything, be it religion, magic, or public policy. Wonderful. Debate and engagement is good for a civil society.

However, I draw the line when someone thinks they are free to use state power to enforce their difference of opinion on their fellow citizens, and cheer on stripping their fellow citizens of basic human rights. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I feel it's simply not appropriate to use state power to enforce their differing conclusions on the rest of us, no matter how right they think they are.

I used to think we could all agree on that.

 

[ElectricEgregore]

When was the last time you heard an "abrahamic" in real life or online complaining about pagans or polytheism?

How often are pagans and polytheists complaining about it?

See what I mean? Pagans and polytheists aren't a big deal. But they want to be.

This Fuentes Nut recently had a rant on getting rid of pagans and MANY others do, especially evangelists and black cube orbiters and so on call for it. Just do the experiment - make yourself a new gmail & youtube and feed the algo so you get 'christian' channels - just look at comments on 'soft conspiracy stuff' there are maaany fanatic ppl coming out of the woodwork right now.

The whole 'great awakening against great reset' narrative is built in a way to portray the one side as the people of light against the darkness (of the degenerated west/rome). It's just prophecy u know, divine judgement

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Just watch what they call 'satanic' right away without thinking, it's a nice side effect of the boomer q psyop and the mixing up of pop culture with occult imagery etc - Satanism (of the fringe and hardcore type) and paganism are one thing for them - Idol worshipers and 'evil entity lovers' - The Hindu god Shiva is a Demon to them etc, I could go on forever.

It all got the final blow with the 'top down escalation of new societal norms' with lgbtq and social media conditioning.

If it's too much for many of us here, the whole over the top 'degeneration' in modern trends, decay on the streets etc - Imagine how it looks to the average traditional family person from outside the west, or religious fanatic or stick up one's ass person.

In some countries men don't wear short pants because it's offensive, or it's perceived as provocative for a woman to eat an icecream in public.

And judging the modlable minds of the masses that called 'for the stoning' of non complient ppl just 3-5 years ago with some pressure - Imagine how easily norms can shift. The 'left rule' that created chaos is about to end as it has served it's purpose (as the west has in general).

 

[MorganBlack]

Ugh, yeah, Fuentes. Ugh. The return of the worst form of fundamentalist Christianity. Not a fan.

But there's some weird performative element to both sides that makes me suspicious. I wonder if everyone is being played. At least in the US.

If I was more conspiratorial I'd say first (depending on when you want to start keeping score) the US corporate-state oligarchy triggered the hyper-libs, anti-religion atheists, and pagans to do horrible things like break first world economics , burn down churches, and assassinate people they disagree with. I disliked Kirk, but we on the Left have to own that.

This triggered (or played in tangent with ) the Return of (Horrible) Christianity as a counter-movement they can also weaponize against the working class. See rising numbers Gen-Z who identify as Christian now paired with the difficulty of Wicca and paganism attracting men and young people.

(Side note, and maybe off-topic)
From a more Jungian perspective maybe it was just time for the return of a Solar redeemer figure to play out in the mass mind to clean up the legit socioeconomic messes we are in. But there's no quality control in the human subconscious, so you get both good and bad manifestation of that archetype. Shadow projection is also always a two-way street. And if we on the Left insist on projecting our own worst Shadow onto them, it only makes sense they will do the same in a reciprocal game of Dark Mirror, until it just makes it worse and worse for all of us.

 

[Beyond Everything]

If I was more conspiratorial I'd say first (depending on when you want to start keeping score) the US corporate-state oligarchy triggered the hyper-libs, anti-religion atheists, and pagans to do horrible things like break first world economics , burn down churches, and assassinate people they disagree with. I disliked Kirk, but we on the Left have to own that.

Reagan, the darling of so many christians, arguably initiated the breaking of the US economic system. A lot of church burnings in the US are against black churches (by other christians). Blaming neo- pagans for trickle down economics ,outsourcing, bank deregulation etc etc is something.

And Kirk was no loss. Fuck that guy and his dominionist pals.

This triggered (or played in tangent with ) the Return of (Horrible) Christianity as a counter-movement they can also weaponize against the working class. See rising numbers Gen-Z who identify as Christian now paired with the difficulty of Wicca and paganism attracting men and young people.

What return? The Moral Majority appeared in the late 70s (not to mention the consistently oppressive hstory of christian western civilization). In that time there was a lot of interest in metaphysical stuff, but it wasn't like there were even rhetorical attacks when they decided to be political on Christians except by the tiny Church of Satan. GW Bush ran explicitly as someone who was counseled by baby jesus. His father said atheists were unamerican. A lot of the things being implemented by the trump administration were planned over DECADES by christians.

Lots of young men are pathetic incel losers who lack the intelligence to think for themselves. And they hate other races. They aren't poor victims, they are just congenital morons.

One thing Wilhelm Reich (a sometimes loon) got right is that fascism is a character type. It isn't created by jungian projection of others, it's just a sad inborn trait that gets exploited.

And if we on the Left insist on projecting our own worst Shadow onto them, it only makes sense they will do the same in a reciprocal game of Dark Mirror, until it just makes it worse and worse for all of us.

This is just fantasy. Dominionists and other jesus creeps want to lord it over everyone else in society with their religion. They don't give a shit what your opinion is of them. Religion isn't oppressive because you're projecting 'bad' thoughts on them, history furnishes us with endless examples.

 

[Yazata]

hate

So far the only hate in this entire thread has been coming from one side.
Strange..

 

[Morell]

So far the only hate in this entire thread has been coming from one side.
Strange..

I call it a good sign.

 

[Beyond Everything]

So far the only hate in this entire thread has been coming from one side.
Strange..

I said there are young men who hate other races. Are you denying that?

I have no problem typing in rhetorically aggressive manner. But I'm afraid you're not at the level that you can psychically read my emotions

Anyway, back on-topic- Christians don't seek total domination because that has been projected upon them.

 

[Yazata]

The topic is "why do Abrahamic religions hate polytheistic religions"
and so far I've only seen hate aimed against Abrahamic religions.

 

[MorganBlack]

Oh shit! Yazata's right.

Here. Let me fix that. (All in good fun. )

Yaaaar! All your base are belong to us.

 

[Ziran]

A new poll conducted by Penn State University found that 82 percent of Israelis support the ethnic cleansing of Gaza

I'll look at the poll data myself and report back.

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A new poll conducted by Penn State University found that 82 percent of Israelis support the ethnic cleansing of Gaza,

The actual poll data is not available. The only ones reporting on it right now are only providing commentary, not raw data. Until the data is public information there's nothing to comment on. Haaretz often publishes sensational articles with shocking headlines, but few read the articles which are far more moderate than what's in the headline.

However, I found a very good academic paper written by the same professor.

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Would you like to discuss this instead?

 

[Mystic_friend]

I don't know what to tell you. If you won't read what is typed, I can't help

I said most israelis support ethnic cleansing.
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A new poll conducted by Penn State University found that 82 percent of Israelis support the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, coinciding with an ongoing effort by Tel Aviv to forcibly displace and relocate the strip’s population.

The poll was conducted in March and published by Haaretz on 22 May, surveying 1,005 Jewish Israelis.

In response to a question on whether the Israeli army should act in accordance with the biblical story of the Israelites and their eradication of all of Jericho’s inhabitants during the conquest of the city, 47 percent of Israelis responded “Yes.”

Sixty-five percent of the respondents also believe that there is a “contemporary incarnation of Amalek.” Ninety-three percent of the 65 percent that “the commandment to wipe out the memory of Amalek is also relevant to that modern-day Amalek.”
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As far as food, I'm sure everyone go look at the news over the past months and see the situation. It's hardly flattering for Israel

yea no both of them have semitic DNA and you cant ethnically cleanse your own race without killing yourself + this is off topic or something