Wicca is bs?

[xeterua]

Personally, I believe the idea of charging rocks with the full moon and making little spell jars is childish and silly. However, I don't know too much about the subject so I'll let everyone decide for themselves

And for what is Magic that you didn't directly experience effect by your own self? And this is basically message for everyone. We magicians don't seek opinions or just merely some external outcome. infact magic and science was once "ONE". So you normally observe the potence of your magical operation as scientist and that also requires a lot of introspection and self-reflection.

 

[voidcat]

My opinion regarding wicca...it can be a good practice for some. I started out with it. But the binaryness of it was what turned me away from it. I'm nonbinary and I felt it wasn't acknowledging how diverse the world is it's many shades. You have light and dark but there's also twilight kind of thing. Theres the feminine and masculine but also neuter and androgynous energies and shades that are mixed. There's also the fact it feels...Christianized for a lack of a better term. Like the people who made it were trying hard to make their religion appeal to (ex)abrahamics. Not that that's a bad thing but it's not for me. I also don't like the false history aspect of many people who practice it but many neopagans not just Wiccans include false history in their works.

 

[NightWatchman95]

Personally, I believe the idea of charging rocks with the full moon and making little spell jars is childish and silly. However, I don't know too much about the subject so I'll let everyone decide for themselves

i can tell you a special kind of metal that can bring you immense wealth from holding it, its called any precious metal.

 

[Accipeveldare]

i can tell you a special kind of metal that can bring you immense wealth from holding it, its called any precious metal.

PFFFT

 

[Xenophon]

It is worth asking if Wicca might not be a "hide." That is, a public show of fluff magick, tantazingly occult but with a "safe," benevolent vibe. Then among the well-versed, there might be be a genuinely powerful core coterie. One hears this sort of thing bruited about regarding the old Golden Dawn group and a few others. That the inner leadership used the rank and file as the occult equivalent of aphids, draining their energy. Wicca tends to be pretty loosely organized, but one wonders about this side to it. Its overall tone is nice and non-threatening. But then, one meets some geuinely formidable Wiccans. So, whether it be B.S. or not might well depend on the Wiccan him or herself.

 

[MagickalStudent569]

Personally, I believe the idea of charging rocks with the full moon and making little spell jars is childish and silly. However, I don't know too much about the subject so I'll let everyone decide for themselves

It's a Frankenstein religion drawn from the practices of the hermetic order of the golden dawn and British Trad Witchcraft or Cunning Work. Those specific techniques are commonly utilized in British Trad Witchcraft and they are legit but the methods used not original in how they modern practices and missing alot of the context of the original practice.

For instance the figure of Diana in Wicca is drawn from the Roman Cult of the Grecian Artemis syncretized with the cult of the Titaness Selene at some point but who's followers were always majority female. At some point in the middle ages the remnants of that cult, among whatever survived christianization across western europe, got mixed with christian mythology and became it's own thing. Similar to what happened with African Traditional Religions in the Americas under colonialism and slavery.

The founder of Wicca took that and other scattered practices here or there to make his own unique religion further syncretizing said elements. All that said, wiccan practices are not bull**** as far the power behind them (provided the wiccan themselves knows what they are doing), but the historical basis behind their practices are... shall we say fairly recent.

 

[lumineth Realm Lord]

Personally, I believe the idea of charging rocks with the full moon and making little spell jars is childish and silly. However, I don't know too much about the subject so I'll let everyone decide for themselves

All I know is I don't really like Wiccans. I think Wicca is just quasi-Christianity pretending to be paganism, and Wiccans tend to be larpers in my opinion. However I'd be willing to be okay with that if it wasn't for how hypocritical they can be.

I remember a few years ago, I joined a wiccan coven. Discussions were more about politics than magic. I remember getting called misogynist because I defended Johnny Bravo. They'd talk on and on about tolerance, love and light. But as soon you show a difference of opinion, they begin rebuking you like some 14th century priest. I remember asking about asking if anyone worked with Loki or the Jotun, and they kicked me out, calling me a Satanist.

 

[frater_pan]

All I know is I don't really like Wiccans. I think Wicca is just quasi-Christianity pretending to be paganism, and Wiccans tend to be larpers in my opinion. However I'd be willing to be okay with that if it wasn't for how hypocritical they can be.

Can Wiccans effect change in the universe?

IMHO yes. Although maybe not everyone. For some Wicca will be more mysticism than magick.

I remember a few years ago, I joined a wiccan coven. Discussions were more about politics than magic. I remember getting called misogynist because I defended Johnny Bravo. They'd talk on and on about tolerance, love and light. But as soon you show a difference of opinion, they begin rebuking you like some 14th century priest. I remember asking about asking if anyone worked with Loki or the Jotun, and they kicked me out, calling me a Satanist.

This happens with lots of groups. Loki and Jötunn: not everyone is copasetic with exploring their shadow side.

 

[lumineth Realm Lord]

Can Wiccans effect change in the universe?

IMHO yes. Although maybe not everyone. For some Wicca will be more mysticism than magick.

This happens with lots of groups. Loki and Jötunn: not everyone is copasetic with exploring their shadow side.

I can't say who can and cannot affect change on the universe, but when I pick up a book on Wiccan magic, I don't feel any power.

Loki is an essential part of Norse mythology. And frankly, the rest of the Nordic pantheon aren't exactly PC. I mean, if someone is offended over Johnny Bravo, they're gonna be offended by how Freya agreed to have sex with four dwarves for a necklace.