[Opinion] Wings

[Morell]

I've met multiple people claiming that they sense their soul to have wings. I think that at least some of them were not making this up. So this makes me wonder, do the souls evolve wings? Does it really mean something about the soul to have wings, like some sort of maturity or something?

I honestly have no idea, or at least nothing that I could say with being at least being convinced about it.

 

[Horologer]

Technically, souls do not need wings. But real people can have wings. They can even appear during a lifetime. It happens. The Council of the Gods may make such a decision and “grant physical wings.” At first, small wings are given, which appear on the upper part of the back. After some time, the wings move to the shoulder blades on the back and become much larger in size.

 

[voidcat]

I've met multiple people claiming that they sense their soul to have wings. I think that at least some of them were not making this up. So this makes me wonder, do the souls evolve wings? Does it really mean something about the soul to have wings, like some sort of maturity or something?

I honestly have no idea, or at least nothing that I could say with being at least being convinced about it.

I have heard of something regarding the soul having multiple parts. The ba is one part in Egyptian paganism. It is often depicted as a human-headed bird. This part is released in dreams and in death. It is the part that is associated with the persons personality and attributes.

 

[beardedeldridge]

What we see can be tricky, especially if you’re trying to compare different people’s visions against one another.

Some of them are probably explained by simple imagination, how they want to see themselves or who they wish they were.

Another thing you have to watch out for is we tend to see what we expect (at some level) to see. Cultural stories, religious icons, art, etc… all play a role. One reason I tend to caution against reading too many accounts of a ritual before you do the ritual yourself.

But even outside of that, a lot of things we see in visions are symbolic, meant to convey a truth/aspect regarding what we’re “seeing”. Like horo said above, there isn’t really any reason for spirits to have wings.

So the question is, why are they seeing wings not why do they have wings.

food for thought

-Eld

 

[stalkinghyena]

Technically, souls do not need wings. But real people can have wings. They can even appear during a lifetime. It happens. The Council of the Gods may make such a decision and “grant physical wings.” At first, small wings are given, which appear on the upper part of the back. After some time, the wings move to the shoulder blades on the back and become much larger in size.

As an intermediate disciple of Charles Fort myself, I can say that while I can accept that there are people who do have physical wings, only certain people can see them.

With regards to the soul having wings, I tend to think that this is an individual attempt at resolving an inner tension of the apparent sense of mind-body dualism that may well have its location in the pineal gland. I hypothesize that physical death could certainly provide a determinant answer, but this is not communicable to others (viz, the living) except via active healthy non-calcinated glands.

 

[Morell]

Another thing you have to watch out for is we tend to see what we expect (at some level) to see. Cultural stories, religious icons, art, etc… all play a role. One reason I tend to caution against reading too many accounts of a ritual before you do the ritual yourself.

Good point there. Cultural and religious influence definitely counts.

So the question is, why are they seeing wings not why do they have wings.

That is a question worth asking too. So let me tell you how did I get to this stuff...

That day when meditating, I started falling asleep, guess that I had some sleep deprivation. Not good for meditating, but I thought that it will be excellent for trying some lucid dreaming, because I'm certain to drop asleep fast, so I will fall asleep long before I would drop out of focus. This theory proved right, I fell asleep very fast and very smoothly moved from wake state into dream of location I was imagining - shores of the lake at night. So I started exploring, walking around the lake. I think I knew it was a dream. There were strange things appearing there I remembered well and afterwards noted down for interpretation.
Another interesting thing about this dream was that after some time it stopped being that easy to stay there. Few times I moved out of dream and out of body. And there, outside of body, intuitively checking it out if it is safe, I saw that my body has wings. Once I saw I was fine, I returned into dream and continued exploring. At one time I really had to focus more on keeping the dream from fading away completely. That was interesting situation, as there I was leaving the lake and moved among some stone ruins...
Woke up feeling like spending there 10 to 20 minutes which turned out to be over one hour.

What I actively imagined was starting place of the dream. Everything following was observed... and on two, maybe three occasions preserved by my will, when I had tendency to wake up...

 

[8Lou1]

have a look at mesopetamian occult stuff. its quite normal to have a heart with wings or a sort of airplane to travel in. one book on it being enuma elish. im not catholic, but im aware there are depictions of holy hearts aka hearts with wings too.

and just a me thought: how else can we fly up high to the realms?

 

[Horologer]

As an intermediate disciple of Charles Fort myself, I can say that while I can accept that there are people who do have physical wings, only certain people can see them.

With regards to the soul having wings, I tend to think that this is an individual attempt at resolving an inner tension of the apparent sense of mind-body dualism that may well have its location in the pineal gland. I hypothesize that physical death could certainly provide a determinant answer, but this is not communicable to others (viz, the living) except via active healthy non-calcinated glands.

You’re right. But I myself went through what I described in that post. At night I saw small white leathery wings — like those of baby dragons — growing on my back. I woke up from pain in my back. In the morning I looked in the mirror and… a surprise was waiting for me. If I write anything on this forum, it’s only about things I’ve personally experienced.

 

[Yazata]

In the Legends of the world tree there often is a bird that is said to nest at the top of it. The medical term for the temples on the sides of your head is "Pteron" which is Greek for wings. It would make sense to think of the tree as being your body and the bird your mind / soul / spirit etc. That's how I think of it at least.

 

[Morell]

You’re right. But I myself went through what I described in that post. At night I saw small white leathery wings — like those of baby dragons — growing on my back. I woke up from pain in my back. In the morning I looked in the mirror and… a surprise was waiting for me. If I write anything on this forum, it’s only about things I’ve personally experienced.

I did feel occasional discomfrot, but never kind of pain that would wake me up at night. Interesting.

 

[Konsciencia]

A Soul or Spirit can manifest as whatever it wants and that includes, having wings. There was an experience I had where I was this giant fly with big long wings once. That was an insane experience.

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I can manifest as anything I want. I know, because I've done it while visualizing myself. I haven't had an OBE for a long time. So, when I do, I am going to experiment a little on Shapeshifting Outside The Body. Let's see.

 

[soularis777]

I've met multiple people claiming that they sense their soul to have wings. I think that at least some of them were not making this up. So this makes me wonder, do the souls evolve wings? Does it really mean something about the soul to have wings, like some sort of maturity or something?

I honestly have no idea, or at least nothing that I could say with being at least being convinced about it.

Yes! I know a few of my soul family and friends who have shown wings in the astral spaces and we feel the effects of them. I 100% think its a thing.

 

[Morell]

Yes! I know a few of my soul family and friends who have shown wings in the astral spaces and we feel the effects of them. I 100% think its a thing.

Is there something they have in common with us "birds" here?

 

[soularis777]

Is there something they have in common with us "birds" here?

I know some are given, some are just how they manifest in that space. Some look like feathers, others are of light. I think the structure or appearance has alot to do with function

 

[Morell]

I know some are given, some are just how they manifest in that space. Some look like feathers, others are of light. I think the structure or appearance has alot to do with function

Good point! I also got intel that the wings are not the same for everyone. Suggests to me that either some people are of different "breed" than other people. My own wings, I can consciously make them transform into different kind if I want, but the change is inevitably temporal and after some time (hours at the longest) they take back their "normal" form.

 

[Ziran]

I've met multiple people claiming that they sense their soul to have wings. I think that at least some of them were not making this up. So this makes me wonder, do the souls evolve wings? Does it really mean something about the soul to have wings, like some sort of maturity or something?

For something like this, It depends on the individual. For one it may be an attainment, for another it may be a distraction, completely insignificant.

Good point! I also got intel that the wings are not the same for everyone.

Right.

Is there something they have in common with us "birds" here?

... here, the common thread is a desire for freedom, independence, and validation.

some people are of different "breed" than other people.

I would be very cautious with this idea. It leads to stereotyping, bigotry, and delusion.

So let me tell you how did I get to this stuff...

Based on what you wrote, and please forgive me if I misunderstand, you heard others could do it, then you did it too? Spontaneously?

My vote? The appearance of wings in your lucid dream indicates either an attainment or natural talent in mirroring other's talents.

 

[Morell]

Based on what you wrote, and please forgive me if I misunderstand, you heard others could do it, then you did it too? Spontaneously?

Unconsciously maybe. That's possible. Though the experiment with lucid dreaming I was doing when I found about my own wings happened 9. 10. 2023, found the date thanks to Discord. But back then I had no idea, I debated one friend afterwards about it, and after that... well, here.

 

[voidcat]

Good point! I also got intel that the wings are not the same for everyone. Suggests to me that either some people are of different "breed" than other people. My own wings, I can consciously make them transform into different kind if I want, but the change is inevitably temporal and after some time (hours at the longest) they take back their "normal" form.

I think the soul working with it and seeing it like that depends strongly on how you perceive it. The soul I suspect doesn't really have a form. Or at least one we can understand. So we perceive things like wings and such because that is how our minds processes things. Wings probably are based on something to do with the person's personality or something they are feeling.

I shape-shift psychologically and sometimes feel my soul changing in terms of what i perceive it as. At least my body feels like its changing (phantom limbs and in my minds eye) and i feel things like wings and such. I think its not just here i feel it but i shift in the spiritual realm too. I notice it's dependent the form on a number of things. If I'm invoking something I may change. If I am sleepy it goes all over the place. If something is getting my attention I shift. If I feel a strong emotion I shift. I can do it intentionally too but it takes conscious effort to. There's other factors too but it's difficult to word them.

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... here, the common thread is a desire for freedom, independence, and validation

Yes. Those things people associate with wings. Hence perceiving wings with the soul.

I have heard of something regarding the soul having multiple parts. The ba is one part in Egyptian paganism. It is often depicted as a human-headed bird. This part is released in dreams and in death. It is the part that is associated with the persons personality and attributes.

I think in kemeticism the reason the ba was perceived as a bird with a human head was because wings are often associated with transversing boundaries.


Freedom is also associated with transversing boundaries.

 

[Ziran]

Yes. Those things people associate with wings. Hence perceiving wings with the soul.

Agreed.

Freedom is also associated with transversing boundaries.

Agreed.

here, the common thread is a desire for freedom, independence, and validation.

... independent freedom, not freedom within an institution.

... validation, not pejorative, in the form of positive feedback: "Yes, that happened to me as well."

 

[voidcat]

... validation, not pejorative, in the form of positive feedback: "Yes, that happened to me as well."

Took me a minute to get this why itd be associated with wings. Then I realized validation makes you feel like you soar. It lifts your spirits.

Reminds me of a dancing ritual i did. Felt like I was flying i was lost in the music. So I kept wanting to move my arms like wings