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I can not say I've read that book, but every night before I commit to dozing off, I loosen my sight in my space and see what the beings are up to. Outside of telepathy, synchronicity or clairvoyance modalities, shadows on surfaces is the main way the beings I interact with manifest. I have to admit I don't understand a lot of the finer interaction parts between their and my energy systems, but i do want to mention that if you regullarly draw in and work with darker and denser energy, the beings can manifest as real as taking up space and holding very visible 3d form. Feeling the consciousness of the being that did so and their interactions with the other beings in the space, them eventually merging with my energy body and the light up of pleasure and like hugging between us was a absolute treat of a experience.

Just remember you're interacting with real beings/consciousnesses.
 
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Bit late to the party here but that sounds amazing to have experienced.

OP I might check that book out too. I've been drawn to shadow beings for a long time.

I even had one sleep paralysis experience where one gave me a clown balloon? And I laughed my ass off and woke up. I have my theories on what was going on.
 

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Shadow magic is one of the most powerful branches of magic. Every being has a shadow side that can be worked with. Through shadows, one can divine and predict the future.
 
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I was curious, and wondering if anyone has experience with working with shadow people? Specifically, in my mind I'm thinking about the Shadownomicon: Grimoire of the Shadow People book by D.H. Thorne.
I haven't deliberately worked with the shadow people, but they have been coming around every year around the anniversary of a careless evocation & opening of an astral portal of sorts. I'll make sure to check out that book; it's very difficult to find credible information on shadow people in my experience.
 

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Shadow people Book is nice very knowledgeable about risk and summoning
 

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I can not say I've read that book, but every night before I commit to dozing off, I loosen my sight in my space and see what the beings are up to. Outside of telepathy, synchronicity or clairvoyance modalities, shadows on surfaces is the main way the beings I interact with manifest. I have to admit I don't understand a lot of the finer interaction parts between their and my energy systems, but i do want to mention that if you regullarly draw in and work with darker and denser energy, the beings can manifest as real as taking up space and holding very visible 3d form. Feeling the consciousness of the being that did so and their interactions with the other beings in the space, them eventually merging with my energy body and the light up of pleasure and like hugging between us was a absolute treat of a experience.

Just remember you're interacting with real beings/consciousnesses.
This description of their ability to manifest within shadows and shapes physically extent gives me flashbacks to some of the crazy shit I saw on shrooms several times, and how entities seemed to become substantially more cohesive in dark silhouettes than by just staring into a dark empty space. These were not pleasant experiences though mind you, and I got only a sense of hostility from such beings. I have not attempted this type of thing sober so perhaps that would change the nature of the experience. Or maybe my geographical location just happens to be infested with some very nasty shadow critters and there are nicer neighborhoods out there lol.
 

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"Shadow peoples" is literrary name in work the A.Machen! You see the story The White People, publicated in 1904 y. 😉
 

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I was curious, and wondering if anyone has experience with working with shadow people? Specifically, in my mind I'm thinking about the Shadownomicon: Grimoire of the Shadow People book by D.H. Thorne.
This is a very interesting concept that I never would think to do on purpose, due to their malevolent nature and energy sucking tendencies.
I have never done this, therefore, but I do have a couple situations with them. It sounds like an interesting book to read, though.

They seem to know when an individual is in a weak or vulnerable state and manifest then, around illness, stress, intoxication, or general 'bad vibes.'

When I was starting out my journey with ritual magick, I would often be drunk too often, and I would not close ritual circles properly.
I would see them 'dancing ' 'circling' on the walls in my ritual space. Sometimes I would get a sense of 'happy evil glee' at sucking up my weakened state.
I don't think this was hallucination, I was not blackout inebriated and trying to do any rituals, I was just buzzed, but in a negative place mentally, from too many depressants and a job I hated, working the graveyard shift.
 

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This is a very interesting concept that I never would think to do on purpose, due to their malevolent nature and energy sucking tendencies.
I have never done this, therefore, but I do have a couple situations with them. It sounds like an interesting book to read, though.

They seem to know when an individual is in a weak or vulnerable state and manifest then, around illness, stress, intoxication, or general 'bad vibes.'

When I was starting out my journey with ritual magick, I would often be drunk too often, and I would not close ritual circles properly.
I would see them 'dancing ' 'circling' on the walls in my ritual space. Sometimes I would get a sense of 'happy evil glee' at sucking up my weakened state.
I don't think this was hallucination, I was not blackout inebriated and trying to do any rituals, I was just buzzed, but in a negative place mentally, from too many depressants and a job I hated, working the graveyard shift.
Many traditions suggest that shadow people (or parasitic astral intelligences) are generally encountered by descending vibrationally into states of exhaustion, intoxication, depression, fear, obsession, or psychic instability — a lot of what you described. In a sense, one lowers their own energetic frequency enough to become perceptible or compatible with theirs, intentionally, or non-intentionally.

That is why they so often appear around liminal states — sleep deprivation, illness, addiction, grief, trauma, heavy ritual work without grounding, or prolonged negativity. The magickian becomes psychically open, but without proper protection or centred intention, it creates resonance.

Your description of them seeming almost gleeful or feeding from weakened emotional states is very common in reports surrounding these entities. Many esoteric systems describe certain non-physical beings as feeding upon psychic discharge — fear, despair, anxiety, intoxication, sexual obsession, rage, etc. Not unlike how some traditions describe larvae, astral parasites, or qliphothic intelligences.

That said, some occultists intentionally work with these currents, though it is generally considered dangerous for precisely the reasons you mention. Invocation or contact often involves entering altered states that partially mirror the entity’s own frequency. In practical terms, this can mean ritual darkness, trance, sensory deprivation, exhaustion, intense emotional states, intoxicants, or deliberately entering the shadow aspects of the psyche. The danger is that prolonged exposure can begin to erode psychological balance, vitality, or personal sovereignty if one lacks discipline.

As for knowledge gained from such entities, traditions throughout history suggest that intelligences dwelling in 'lower' or shadow strata may still possess insight — particularly regarding hidden desires, trauma, taboo knowledge, manipulation, the unconscious mind, death currents, primal instincts, or aspects of the self one normally represses. In some systems, confronting or working with them is viewed less as “learning from demons” and more as descending into the underworld of the psyche to recover hidden knowledge.

The problem is that the information often comes at a cost. These entities are rarely described as benevolent teachers. The knowledge may be distorted through fear, ego inflation, obsession, dependency, or psychic attachment. Many occult traditions therefore stress discernment, banishing, grounding, and maintaining sovereignty over one’s own will before attempting any form of contact.

Honestly, your experience sounds less like simple hallucination and more like a classic example of ritual vulnerability — intoxication, emotional depletion, graveyard shifts disrupting circadian rhythm, and unclosed ritual work creating the perfect conditions for those perceptions or encounters to manifest.
 

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Many traditions suggest that shadow people (or parasitic astral intelligences) are generally encountered by descending vibrationally into states of exhaustion, intoxication, depression, fear, obsession, or psychic instability — a lot of what you described. In a sense, one lowers their own energetic frequency enough to become perceptible or compatible with theirs, intentionally, or non-intentionally.

That is why they so often appear around liminal states — sleep deprivation, illness, addiction, grief, trauma, heavy ritual work without grounding, or prolonged negativity. The magickian becomes psychically open, but without proper protection or centred intention, it creates resonance.

Your description of them seeming almost gleeful or feeding from weakened emotional states is very common in reports surrounding these entities. Many esoteric systems describe certain non-physical beings as feeding upon psychic discharge — fear, despair, anxiety, intoxication, sexual obsession, rage, etc. Not unlike how some traditions describe larvae, astral parasites, or qliphothic intelligences.

That said, some occultists intentionally work with these currents, though it is generally considered dangerous for precisely the reasons you mention. Invocation or contact often involves entering altered states that partially mirror the entity’s own frequency. In practical terms, this can mean ritual darkness, trance, sensory deprivation, exhaustion, intense emotional states, intoxicants, or deliberately entering the shadow aspects of the psyche. The danger is that prolonged exposure can begin to erode psychological balance, vitality, or personal sovereignty if one lacks discipline.

As for knowledge gained from such entities, traditions throughout history suggest that intelligences dwelling in 'lower' or shadow strata may still possess insight — particularly regarding hidden desires, trauma, taboo knowledge, manipulation, the unconscious mind, death currents, primal instincts, or aspects of the self one normally represses. In some systems, confronting or working with them is viewed less as “learning from demons” and more as descending into the underworld of the psyche to recover hidden knowledge.

The problem is that the information often comes at a cost. These entities are rarely described as benevolent teachers. The knowledge may be distorted through fear, ego inflation, obsession, dependency, or psychic attachment. Many occult traditions therefore stress discernment, banishing, grounding, and maintaining sovereignty over one’s own will before attempting any form of contact.

Honestly, your experience sounds less like simple hallucination and more like a classic example of ritual vulnerability — intoxication, emotional depletion, graveyard shifts disrupting circadian rhythm, and unclosed ritual work creating the perfect conditions for those perceptions or encounters to manifest.
Exactly, which is why I would question the true value, if any, of working with these entities.

In my evolution in the past years, (these negative experiences occurred roughly 13 years ago) I have learnt to be disciplined, focussed, tougher, and only enter liminal states willfully, not through weakness. To do everything in a willed and balanced fashion, even having fun. That said, I will definitely read the book, I just don't feel the need or draw to do this kind of magick on purpose.

I have everything I need in my life through physical, psychological, and occult and metaphysical hard work, and the occult knwoledge I am seeking is how to further strengthen and empower myself and gain new experience, not wallow backwards into atavastic, primal, or lower frequency realms, as those have already been mostly overcome.

They DO need re-hashing from time to time, because after all we are in the physical plane, but I do question the value of diving into the mud full body, on purpose, constantly. Please feel free, anyone, to change my mind.

I view things as balance, work with Shadow and Light, not just full-on Shadow. It's unbalanced and unncessary to me.
And these entities by their very nature are the definition of unbalanced, are they not?
 

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Exactly, which is why I would question the true value, if any, of working with these entities.

In my evolution in the past years, (these negative experiences occurred roughly 13 years ago) I have learnt to be disciplined, focussed, tougher, and only enter liminal states willfully, not through weakness. To do everything in a willed and balanced fashion, even having fun. That said, I will definitely read the book, I just don't feel the need or draw to do this kind of magick on purpose.

I have everything I need in my life through physical, psychological, and occult and metaphysical hard work, and the occult knwoledge I am seeking is how to further strengthen and empower myself and gain new experience, not wallow backwards into atavastic, primal, or lower frequency realms, as those have already been mostly overcome.

They DO need re-hashing from time to time, because after all we are in the physical plane, but I do question the value of diving into the mud full body, on purpose, constantly. Please feel free, anyone, to change my mind.

I view things as balance, work with Shadow and Light, not just full-on Shadow. It's unbalanced and unncessary to me.
And these entities by their very nature are the definition of unbalanced, are they not?
I totally agree with you. In my experience, I have found that working with 'higher-sanctioned' entities offer a greater (though sometimes more complex and time-dwelling) sense of direction and knowledge.

Everyone has their own purpose and perspective which governs their actions regarding magick and the pursuit of knowledge, and, I too, question the value of lowering one's energy on a constant basis in working with more primal and lower-frequency energies, as it seems to be an exhaustive and unbalanced endeavour.

Like with the universal perspective and alchemical notion of order, everything must be in harmony and balance of principle, otherwise one is steered in a direction that either does not serve the intended purpose, or simply does not produce the required results.
 

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I'ma print that today and read it for fun though. Maybe worst case I will learn something new about human nature.
 
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