Occultist on A.I

[ewiz]

People readily believe into someone's opinion without using their critical thinking

I've seen this my entire life, and can recognize that it's literally always been the case. I don't think anything has really changed in that regard. People weren't smarter before AI, and dumb people pretending to be experts to fool more dumb people have been around forever as well. The internet made that easier, and now AI makes it even easier, but it's nothing new. I also think AI is just a bit of software and not in any way "intelligent." I said as much in my post if you read it. The idea of AI(being AGI and superintelligence), and the actual AI we have, are entirely different things, and most people are not smart enough to understand the difference. Including the people funding it. The only reasonable concern is how many industries will collapse when the AGI pipedream fails, the bubble bursts, and we're left with AI integrated into every business in the world that needs to be undone because there was no return on the trillions of dollars of investment, and the money stops flowing in because no money ever flowed back out.

 

[ihateclowns]

I don't think anything has really changed in that regard. People weren't smarter before AI, and dumb people pretending to be experts to fool more dumb people have been around forever as well

few years bfore at least kids didn't struggle to read in schools even in 5th or 6th grade.

 

[ewiz]

few years bfore at least kids didn't struggle to read in schools even in 5th or 6th grade.

That may be what you've seen, but 20-30 years ago when I was in school kids were a lot dumber than they are today.

 

[Omee]

I want to know is there any esoteric meaning behind this AI dominance

It's just the equivalent of bitcoin, internet, fiber optics, etc. I think it feels different this time because of a lot of big astrological forces going in the background like Pluto in Aquarius or Saturn conjunction Neptune, and all the bunch of forces going rapidly since the start of what? late 2024-till 2028.

I don't feel it is worth it to dwell on things that are out of our direct control, better to pivot to what is helpful to you and work with that, no? If there are these quite strong astrological forces going around at these times then the best thing to do is... to use them in our lives instead of speculating about the ramification of things out of my own personal control haha.

 

[Aeternus]

What is the occultist point of view towards the rapidly accelerating breakthroughs that the AI industry has made lately and now they have already solved math and programming, will every knowledge eventually feel worthless to pursue or something far worse looms behind this advancement? I want to know is there any esoteric meaning behind this AI dominance

Well, the accelerating breakthroughs that the AI industry has made aren't something that can be seen as that good, if we really skip the commercial vibe of things. Sure, we may now have AIs who sort TB of data and go through thousand of pages from manuals, books, grimoires, etc. but I still think that the problematic situation comes from the fact that spoon-feeding someone with such information from AIs can have the beginner practicioner slow their thinking process.

One thing that makes me not stress so much about the AI development though is that there are a lot of areas in the occult like Sigil creation, Thoughtform / Egregore creation, as well as the Alphabet of Desire and other things which will require inevitable use of humans and the spiritual essence that lays in one's soul and not in bits and bytes, or CPUs and GPUs. And it is true, since if we analyze it from the purest occult perspective (the one that requires practice and not theory), we can see that one may know about Austin Osman Spare's method for making Sigils, for example, or the Sigils of the Shem HaMephorash angels, but if one lacks the practical attitude to at least utilize the Sigils, then chances are at best that they will achieve 0 results...worse it would be problems with screw-ups.

In conclusion, I think that besides the smallest of an academic efort to sort through lists, create databases and racks of books, etc., AI will never replace the essence of the occult. Not only because it is hidden (lat. occultus), and it takes time and willingness to discover, but also due the fact that it requires spiritual essence to practice it, and humans, with their good and bad, are the ones in the possession of the Microcosm which is further part of the Macrocosm, or how the word Universe has the underlying principle of the Universe expressing Itself through You, the practicioner.

 

[Kepler]

Heavily state controlled ai suppressing occult investigations by enforcing state narrative and dogma through surveillance is a real issue.

That difficult to replace infrastructure which supported YandexGPT and Alisa was reportedly damaged causing disruption to its training and service hasn't garnered more vocal celebration among anti-ai advocates is unsurprising, but disappointing. Revealing, perhaps confirming, that their discomfiture with ai is a parochial manufactured concern of their localization than a legitimate informed position.

Not that any Ai doesn't have these issues. Some are more about corporate guardrails to suit secular law than state narrative, but the overlap can be blurry with nuances. Finding resolution in positive sum considerations.

On a more positive note,
Ai has been useful to investigate the psychology of people and their sources of information in the occult since it has such a wide dataset to work from. Which is great for communication and understanding occult ideas. But again, responses are limited to its training and the quality of the user using ai as a tool since ai does make a lot of mistakes and needs correction.

As a magic mirror for metacognition ai is unsurpassed in my short experience with it in the last five weeks. But to use that successfully in that way takes not only an understanding of the processes of that work outside ai and within the occult, but successful experience with metacognition in that arena and fluid adjustment to personal thinking. If obstinately looking to only have biases confirmed ai not going to help improve thinking anymore than other processes will.

 

[Asteriskos]

The reason AI is getting more into the hands of people is not because it is something great but because it is purposely pushed by companies and people are getting dumber and it is a vicious cycle the more dumber people get the more they have to rely on AI.

Why do you think more people don't "seem" to view that as "insidious"? Many people just seem to suck it up and say things like "that's the way it is", or "it's the future of life as it's shoved down our throats"! It's like media commercials, completely out of normal understanding! But... How much push back on any of this shit do you really hear of? None of my "mute" buttons have Any Print Left! WTF?