On "crossing the abyss"

[neon_trapezoid]

For those of you who have had the experience of crossing the abyss, how did that experience manifest for you?

I'm thinking of this in Crowleyan/OTO terms, where to reach a certain point of the path of knowledge/initiation/growth/development, it is necessary to "cross the abyss". It has been described as a melting of personality into the "All", but I'm curious what that really looks like physically/mentally for a person.

 

[Morell]

Just watched video on this topic yesterday... it's very interesting one, that speaks about crossing the abyss in both tree of life and death.

Spoiler: video

I'm unsure if I attempted it without knowing or if I'm trying now, no idea, because I don't use Kabbalah in any version. But I assume that everyone has to do it at some time.

 

[FireBorn]

I have crossed the Abyss, but not within the framework you are asking about. I am watching this thread as I am very curious about others experiences. Hopefully a few will chime in and share.

 

[sahgwa]

I am nowhere near close to that step, but I do feel in my own evolution small pieces of it coming together.
I will just say that as a Thelemite, each sephiroth and grade that you advance through, changes your baseline.
In this day and age, I personally believe the average person is barely on the Tree at all. They are right below Malkuth.
You could view this as a Student in the A.:.A.:. curriculum.

Anyway, we all bounce up and down the Tree in our daily lives, but our baseline frequency evolves through the Work.
Much like a rubber band can be bent or changed, but made tighter, although we may 'fall' or 'rise' , in 'tightening the band' through Work, our baseline frequency will raise in vibration, and therefore our 'home' Sephiroth can (generally) change to be 'better/higher'
The closer you get to your Higher Self , near Tiphareth, you find yourself subconsciously manifesting more harmony and compassion in your life.
This in my personal experience is not chosen, it just feels 'wrong' to be disharmonious.

We are all human, sometimes it's 'fun' to shout or judge people. But as you evolve you feel/know that it is not good for you, and is an indulgence and feels 'dirty.' But we all have sometimes automatic lizard reactions. As we evolve we can notice outside of ourselves, inwards, more and be more mindful at least while it happens.

I feel that this natural growing of a 'identification' or vibration with Harmony, is a baseline for the ultimate Merging.

So much like you have to stand up and use your leg muscles upright, before you can take a step and walk, I feel the natural tendency towards divine love, a stern logical compassion, feels to me like a first step towards the ultimate Dissolution above the Abyss.
Hopefully this very limited personal experience has given you a glimpse of what reaching the dissolution of the ego may look like psychologically. I am not close, but I am closer than I was.

 

[neon_trapezoid]

Just watched video on this topic yesterday... it's very interesting one, that speaks about crossing the abyss in both tree of life and death.

Spoiler: video

I'm unsure if I attempted it without knowing or if I'm trying now, no idea, because I don't use Kabbalah in any version. But I assume that everyone has to do it at some time.

Thanks @Morell , helpful to get the live perspective.

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I have crossed the Abyss, but not within the framework you are asking about. I am watching this thread as I am very curious about others experiences. Hopefully a few will chime in and share.

@FireBorn I'm curious about the way you understand the process if you are willing to share

Post automatically merged: Yesterday at 11:51 AM

I am nowhere near close to that step, but I do feel in my own evolution small pieces of it coming together.
I will just say that as a Thelemite, each sephiroth and grade that you advance through, changes your baseline.
In this day and age, I personally believe the average person is barely on the Tree at all. They are right below Malkuth.
You could view this as a Student in the A.:.A.:. curriculum.

Anyway, we all bounce up and down the Tree in our daily lives, but our baseline frequency evolves through the Work.
Much like a rubber band can be bent or changed, but made tighter, although we may 'fall' or 'rise' , in 'tightening the band' through Work, our baseline frequency will raise in vibration, and therefore our 'home' Sephiroth can (generally) change to be 'better/higher'
The closer you get to your Higher Self , near Tiphareth, you find yourself subconsciously manifesting more harmony and compassion in your life.
This in my personal experience is not chosen, it just feels 'wrong' to be disharmonious.

We are all human, sometimes it's 'fun' to shout or judge people. But as you evolve you feel/know that it is not good for you, and is an indulgence and feels 'dirty.' But we all have sometimes automatic lizard reactions. As we evolve we can notice outside of ourselves, inwards, more and be more mindful at least while it happens.

I feel that this natural growing of a 'identification' or vibration with Harmony, is a baseline for the ultimate Merging.

So much like you have to stand up and use your leg muscles upright, before you can take a step and walk, I feel the natural tendency towards divine love, a stern logical compassion, feels to me like a first step towards the ultimate Dissolution above the Abyss.
Hopefully this very limited personal experience has given you a glimpse of what reaching the dissolution of the ego may look like psychologically. I am not close, but I am closer than I was.

@sahgwa thanks for the insight. Sometimes I do notice that feeling of being 'wrong to be disharmonious', and I've wondered what that stems from in myself. As in, sometimes the draw towards harmony feels innate, but I question whether it is innate in me or a result of religious conditioning. Interesting to hear this from you.

 

[Aldebaran]

I believe Crowley was talking about the complete dissolution of the ego and the concept of merging identity with source. You can look up Eckhart Tolle for a similar , but less Left Hand Path, take on this. He (Tolle) is an example of complete ego dissolution without Will.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

I am not a Thelemite and I do not practice in the Æon of Horus under Crowley, but from my own experience there was a pointed moment of sober direct existential contact that did permanently change me, which matches the solemn experience Crowley talks about, and the reverence he holds in "those who understand.".

It was harrowing and I see the world still through the knowledge gained by the experience. It's not possible to emphasize the truth or importance of this realization enough, how liberating and obliterating it is when ultimate truth is understood in the very core of your being. I can see how integrating this perspective when you're not rigorously conditioned through some esoteric system or ready for it could lead to tragedy for the individual and those around them. I'm not sure if I should share it, but who gives a fuck.

Spoiler: Secret

It was a coming into contact with the expanse of nothingness that comprises all levels of existence. Nothing is born, nothing dies. Nothing has a name, nothing is. There is no point, no goal, no finish line, no failure or success. Something cannot exist within nothing. There are no humans, no gods, no art, no practice, no souls, no All, only nothing, forever, infinitely, always. There is no story, you haven't lived a life, and there is no one in your head listening to the thoughts that no one is saying. Given you reading this are the center, this most importantly applies directly to you, you are nothing.

I believe the absolute existential unyielding comprehension of this truth is why it's called "Crossing The Abyss", it's a nice phrase for the experience, because miraculously something does come through the other side. Of course there's a difference between reading about it and undergoing the initiation with your neck on the block

 

[neon_trapezoid]

I am not a Thelemite and I do not practice in the Æon of Horus under Crowley, but from my own experience there was a pointed moment of sober direct existential contact that did permanently change me, which matches the solemn experience Crowley talks about, and the reverence he holds in "those who understand.".

It was harrowing and I see the world still through the knowledge gained by the experience. It's not possible to emphasize the truth or importance of this realization enough, how liberating and obliterating it is when ultimate truth is understood in the very core of your being. I can see how integrating this perspective when you're not rigorously conditioned through some esoteric system or ready for it could lead to tragedy for the individual and those around them. I'm not sure if I should share it, but who gives a fuck.

Spoiler: Secret

It was a coming into contact with the expanse of nothingness that comprises all levels of existence. Nothing is born, nothing dies. Nothing has a name, nothing is. There is no point, no goal, no finish line, no failure or success. Something cannot exist within nothing. There are no humans, no gods, no art, no practice, no souls, no All, only nothing, forever, infinitely, always. There is no story, you haven't lived a life, and there is no one in your head listening to the thoughts that no one is saying. Given you reading this are the center, this most importantly applies directly to you, you are nothing.

I believe the absolute existential unyielding comprehension of this truth is why it's called "Crossing The Abyss", it's a nice phrase for the experience, because miraculously something does come through the other side. Of course there's a difference between reading about it and undergoing the initiation with your neck on the block

@IllusiveOwl very interesting. Thank you for sharing.

 

[FireBorn]

@FireBorn I'm curious about the way you understand the process if you are willing to share

Sure man. Caveat here, Lilith was initiating me directly at the time. I had no idea I was going to cross the Abyss until afterwards. I didn't get a chance to prep or research the dogshit out of it first. And I am so grateful for that.

For me, the crossing was the easy part. People make the Abyss into this massive, mythical, terrifying ordeal. Good. Let them.

The actual crossing was fast for me, at least in mundane time (like 15-20 minutes tops). Inside it, everything was a blur. Not monsters, not cosmic battles, none of the Reddit fanfic nonsense. It was like wind. A rushing blur. And as I moved through it, pieces of me melted away. Parts of myself I thought I was. Parts I wanted to be. Parts I hated, parts I loved, parts I feared anyone ever seeing. All of it stripped.

Coming out was where the ordeal actually began.

In there, the stripping away was spiritual. But when I returned to the mundane world, the impact hit differently. All those “parts” that burned off were just masks. And I was left without any of them. Naked. Vulnerable. Not I told someone a secret vulnerable, soul‑level, no‑place‑left-to-hide vulnerable.

The masks were still there on the floor. I could’ve picked them up again. But I would’ve known forever they were only masks. Not me. Fuck man that feeling is wild. Knowing and I will never NOT know.

In truth, I ended up a heap on the floor of my kitchen. Couldn’t breathe from crying. Hours of it. All the hidden pieces of myself I’d ignored, denied, or smothered, suddenly laid bare. Horrifying. Humbling. And I couldn’t believe how long I lived my life mostly hiding from myself.

And whoever tells you that you “kill your ego” in the Abyss? They’re full of shit. They didn’t cross it. You don’t “annihilate the ego, bro.” Try that and you’ll fracture your psyche.

I met my ego face to face. I was terrified for a minute. But I didn’t attack it. Didn’t challenge it. I realized it had fought for me when no one else did. It showed up my whole life when no one else did. This whole idea of the ego being the villain comes from people who never faced their own.

So I sat with him. I thanked him. Through tears, with love and respect. Because he was me.

And the real crucible? It’s not the crossing. Crossing gets the fanfare. The real crucible is everything after, the days, weeks, months of learning to live without the old masks. Integrating shadow. Making peace with the parts of me I had abandoned without letting them drive the bus. Letting the ego exist without letting it run the show. That’s integration.

This is a lifelong process. No one integrates everything. We just keep going.

About a month after my crossing, I wondered whether I’d ever have to go back, whether it was one-and-done. I can see a need to cross again someday, to face and integrate what was missed. I can’t imagine anyone doing it all in one go. At least that's what I think in hindsight.

Like I said at the beginning, I didn't prep, or read about the Abyss. I'm glad I didn't. I hear the wildest shit about it. Going in blind was the best way for ME. I couldn't 'outsmart' the process, I couldn't shortcut the process. Lilith knows me and knew what she was doing just taking me to the gate without announcement. I will forever be grateful for her tough love.

Then again, that’s just my experience. I don’t know what it will be like for others.

If you are on the precipice of this journey do it. Just do it. Don’t hesitate. Do it. It’s one of the best things I’ve done in all my occult work so far.

My magick exploded in the best ways. My energy is better. My rituals rarely fall flat. I am more me than I have ever been on fucking purpose, these days. My view of magick, spirits, everything… it changed dramatically. The shift was tectonic.

Yes, it was rough. Yes, it was painful. Yes, so many parts of me died. Isn’t that the point? Magick is dying over and over again. Letting what is false fall away.

In my opinion, this is the one event that separates you from most occultists. This puts skin in the game. This is the real deal. And it fucking matters.

Do it. Don’t just read about it. Don’t intellectualize it. Just fucking do it. Don’t cheat yourself out of this life-changing opportunity. I promise, you will never be the same. And I was shocked by how many don’t.

This was my experience. Is it the right experience? I don’t know. Will it be the same for you? Again, I don’t know. YMMV.

Sorry for such a long post, this was tougher to write about than I thought. So much comes back. Hard to condense it into a small post like this. Hopefully I captured the most salient points.

 

[System Error Message]

in order to cross the void harmlessly, or to take a path that doesnt exist between worlds you need a vessel capable of sustaining its own existence and reality. You'd be surprised as to what some beings are.

 

[neon_trapezoid]

Sure man. Caveat here, Lilith was initiating me directly at the time. I had no idea I was going to cross the Abyss until afterwards. I didn't get a chance to prep or research the dogshit out of it first. And I am so grateful for that.

For me, the crossing was the easy part. People make the Abyss into this massive, mythical, terrifying ordeal. Good. Let them.

The actual crossing was fast for me, at least in mundane time (like 15-20 minutes tops). Inside it, everything was a blur. Not monsters, not cosmic battles, none of the Reddit fanfic nonsense. It was like wind. A rushing blur. And as I moved through it, pieces of me melted away. Parts of myself I thought I was. Parts I wanted to be. Parts I hated, parts I loved, parts I feared anyone ever seeing. All of it stripped.

Coming out was where the ordeal actually began.

In there, the stripping away was spiritual. But when I returned to the mundane world, the impact hit differently. All those “parts” that burned off were just masks. And I was left without any of them. Naked. Vulnerable. Not I told someone a secret vulnerable, soul‑level, no‑place‑left-to-hide vulnerable.

The masks were still there on the floor. I could’ve picked them up again. But I would’ve known forever they were only masks. Not me. Fuck man that feeling is wild. Knowing and I will never NOT know.

In truth, I ended up a heap on the floor of my kitchen. Couldn’t breathe from crying. Hours of it. All the hidden pieces of myself I’d ignored, denied, or smothered, suddenly laid bare. Horrifying. Humbling. And I couldn’t believe how long I lived my life mostly hiding from myself.

And whoever tells you that you “kill your ego” in the Abyss? They’re full of shit. They didn’t cross it. You don’t “annihilate the ego, bro.” Try that and you’ll fracture your psyche.

I met my ego face to face. I was terrified for a minute. But I didn’t attack it. Didn’t challenge it. I realized it had fought for me when no one else did. It showed up my whole life when no one else did. This whole idea of the ego being the villain comes from people who never faced their own.

So I sat with him. I thanked him. Through tears, with love and respect. Because he was me.

And the real crucible? It’s not the crossing. Crossing gets the fanfare. The real crucible is everything after, the days, weeks, months of learning to live without the old masks. Integrating shadow. Making peace with the parts of me I had abandoned without letting them drive the bus. Letting the ego exist without letting it run the show. That’s integration.

This is a lifelong process. No one integrates everything. We just keep going.

About a month after my crossing, I wondered whether I’d ever have to go back, whether it was one-and-done. I can see a need to cross again someday, to face and integrate what was missed. I can’t imagine anyone doing it all in one go. At least that's what I think in hindsight.

Like I said at the beginning, I didn't prep, or read about the Abyss. I'm glad I didn't. I hear the wildest shit about it. Going in blind was the best way for ME. I couldn't 'outsmart' the process, I couldn't shortcut the process. Lilith knows me and knew what she was doing just taking me to the gate without announcement. I will forever be grateful for her tough love.

Then again, that’s just my experience. I don’t know what it will be like for others.

If you are on the precipice of this journey do it. Just do it. Don’t hesitate. Do it. It’s one of the best things I’ve done in all my occult work so far.

My magick exploded in the best ways. My energy is better. My rituals rarely fall flat. I am more me than I have ever been on fucking purpose, these days. My view of magick, spirits, everything… it changed dramatically. The shift was tectonic.

Yes, it was rough. Yes, it was painful. Yes, so many parts of me died. Isn’t that the point? Magick is dying over and over again. Letting what is false fall away.

In my opinion, this is the one event that separates you from most occultists. This puts skin in the game. This is the real deal. And it fucking matters.

Do it. Don’t just read about it. Don’t intellectualize it. Just fucking do it. Don’t cheat yourself out of this life-changing opportunity. I promise, you will never be the same. And I was shocked by how many don’t.

This was my experience. Is it the right experience? I don’t know. Will it be the same for you? Again, I don’t know. YMMV.

Sorry for such a long post, this was tougher to write about than I thought. So much comes back. Hard to condense it into a small post like this. Hopefully I captured the most salient points.

@FireBorn thanks for sharing. Super helpful to have the perspective.

 

[Morell]

Having more thoughts... as I'm on LHP as a vampire, I think it might be for me, sooner or later to enter "inverted" abyss or the void, whatever. When I happen to be visited by some aggressive spirit, I already do not defend much and simply drain their energy. So, reacting to the video I myself posted here... I think the guy is correct or at least onto something, because it sounds right that in time any defending ageist entities will be obsolete for me.

@neon_trapezoid , since you asked about abyss, which one do you consider venturing into? (meaning of course, which tradition? LHP, RHP, Norse, etc.)

 

[System Error Message]

Sure man. Caveat here, Lilith was initiating me directly at the time. I had no idea I was going to cross the Abyss until afterwards. I didn't get a chance to prep or research the dogshit out of it first. And I am so grateful for that.

For me, the crossing was the easy part. People make the Abyss into this massive, mythical, terrifying ordeal. Good. Let them.

The actual crossing was fast for me, at least in mundane time (like 15-20 minutes tops). Inside it, everything was a blur. Not monsters, not cosmic battles, none of the Reddit fanfic nonsense. It was like wind. A rushing blur. And as I moved through it, pieces of me melted away. Parts of myself I thought I was. Parts I wanted to be. Parts I hated, parts I loved, parts I feared anyone ever seeing. All of it stripped.

Coming out was where the ordeal actually began.

In there, the stripping away was spiritual. But when I returned to the mundane world, the impact hit differently. All those “parts” that burned off were just masks. And I was left without any of them. Naked. Vulnerable. Not I told someone a secret vulnerable, soul‑level, no‑place‑left-to-hide vulnerable.

The masks were still there on the floor. I could’ve picked them up again. But I would’ve known forever they were only masks. Not me. Fuck man that feeling is wild. Knowing and I will never NOT know.

In truth, I ended up a heap on the floor of my kitchen. Couldn’t breathe from crying. Hours of it. All the hidden pieces of myself I’d ignored, denied, or smothered, suddenly laid bare. Horrifying. Humbling. And I couldn’t believe how long I lived my life mostly hiding from myself.

And whoever tells you that you “kill your ego” in the Abyss? They’re full of shit. They didn’t cross it. You don’t “annihilate the ego, bro.” Try that and you’ll fracture your psyche.

I met my ego face to face. I was terrified for a minute. But I didn’t attack it. Didn’t challenge it. I realized it had fought for me when no one else did. It showed up my whole life when no one else did. This whole idea of the ego being the villain comes from people who never faced their own.

So I sat with him. I thanked him. Through tears, with love and respect. Because he was me.

And the real crucible? It’s not the crossing. Crossing gets the fanfare. The real crucible is everything after, the days, weeks, months of learning to live without the old masks. Integrating shadow. Making peace with the parts of me I had abandoned without letting them drive the bus. Letting the ego exist without letting it run the show. That’s integration.

This is a lifelong process. No one integrates everything. We just keep going.

About a month after my crossing, I wondered whether I’d ever have to go back, whether it was one-and-done. I can see a need to cross again someday, to face and integrate what was missed. I can’t imagine anyone doing it all in one go. At least that's what I think in hindsight.

Like I said at the beginning, I didn't prep, or read about the Abyss. I'm glad I didn't. I hear the wildest shit about it. Going in blind was the best way for ME. I couldn't 'outsmart' the process, I couldn't shortcut the process. Lilith knows me and knew what she was doing just taking me to the gate without announcement. I will forever be grateful for her tough love.

Then again, that’s just my experience. I don’t know what it will be like for others.

If you are on the precipice of this journey do it. Just do it. Don’t hesitate. Do it. It’s one of the best things I’ve done in all my occult work so far.

My magick exploded in the best ways. My energy is better. My rituals rarely fall flat. I am more me than I have ever been on fucking purpose, these days. My view of magick, spirits, everything… it changed dramatically. The shift was tectonic.

Yes, it was rough. Yes, it was painful. Yes, so many parts of me died. Isn’t that the point? Magick is dying over and over again. Letting what is false fall away.

In my opinion, this is the one event that separates you from most occultists. This puts skin in the game. This is the real deal. And it fucking matters.

Do it. Don’t just read about it. Don’t intellectualize it. Just fucking do it. Don’t cheat yourself out of this life-changing opportunity. I promise, you will never be the same. And I was shocked by how many don’t.

This was my experience. Is it the right experience? I don’t know. Will it be the same for you? Again, I don’t know. YMMV.

Sorry for such a long post, this was tougher to write about than I thought. So much comes back. Hard to condense it into a small post like this. Hopefully I captured the most salient points.

You crossed via an existing path. I only know of a few that can cross without an existing path, otherwise you wouldnt be able to return or be whole.

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Having more thoughts... as I'm on LHP as a vampire, I think it might be for me, sooner or later to enter "inverted" abyss or the void, whatever. When I happen to be visited by some aggressive spirit, I already do not defend much and simply drain their energy. So, reacting to the video I myself posted here... I think the guy is correct or at least onto something, because it sounds right that in time any defending ageist entities will be obsolete for me.

@neon_trapezoid , since you asked about abyss, which one do you consider venturing into? (meaning of course, which tradition? LHP, RHP, Norse, etc.)

the RHP actually gives way more than that, its just the beings in the RHP dont trust humans but arent trying to rip them off. Meanwhile the beings in the LHP dont like humans but want to rip them off. There is something that i will share later about the RHP that is what you are looking for, but convincing that being itself is a whole other story.

 

[Morell]

There is something that i will share later about the RHP that is what you are looking for, but convincing that being itself is a whole other story.

Doubt that it would change my mind or my path, but go ahead. I'm listening. I wonder what do you think I seek.

 

[neon_trapezoid]

Having more thoughts... as I'm on LHP as a vampire, I think it might be for me, sooner or later to enter "inverted" abyss or the void, whatever. When I happen to be visited by some aggressive spirit, I already do not defend much and simply drain their energy. So, reacting to the video I myself posted here... I think the guy is correct or at least onto something, because it sounds right that in time any defending ageist entities will be obsolete for me.

@neon_trapezoid , since you asked about abyss, which one do you consider venturing into? (meaning of course, which tradition? LHP, RHP, Norse, etc.)

@Morell interesting, thanks! I feel like I am too early on the path to really make that decision. My gut says RHP, but I cant say that I really know. Or maybe it will simply happen as I progress and I wont really have to choose.

 

[Morell]

@Morell interesting, thanks! I feel like I am too early on the path to really make that decision. My gut says RHP, but I cant say that I really know. Or maybe it will simply happen as I progress and I wont really have to choose.

That's fine. I don't do Kabbalah at all, actually. The void seems to be entered on many paths, so don't be bothered if you don't want to choose from 2 options among countless others. If void is a place, though metaphysical, it can be reached through many paths.

 

[MacLu69]

Personality dissolution isn't the most accurate meaning; it's more likely personal growth or personal development. Why cross the abyss if? You can dissolve into the clouds or some other source. What about practices? Increasing potential after passing this experience.

To cross the abyss of Da'at, one must abstract oneself from everything. To avoid dependence on certain patterns and labels, one must perform exercises to free oneself from the cages of the soul, that is, to free oneself from attachments. For this will constantly drag one down, there will be a heaviness. But when overcoming the abyss of heaviness, there should be flight, soaring above the abyss...

In such cases, the ancient sages used ancient rods, such as the rod of the moon, the rod of the sun, made of gold and silver. There, real hovering over the abyss occurs during practice with them.

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But you need to imagine at least 10 or 12 images of this abyss in different situations, in different cases. That is, where can this be performed and how? Well, this is just an example. Working with visualization. With the element of wind. That is, the element of wind from the East should be very helpful here.

 

[Morell]

In such cases, the ancient sages used ancient rods, such as the rod of the moon, the rod of the sun, made of gold and silver. There, real hovering over the abyss occurs during practice with them.

Didn't hear of this practice yet...

 

[FireBorn]

Personality dissolution isn't the most accurate meaning; it's more likely personal growth or personal development. Why cross the abyss if? You can dissolve into the clouds or some other source. What about practices? Increasing potential after passing this experience.

To cross the abyss of Da'at, one must abstract oneself from everything. To avoid dependence on certain patterns and labels, one must perform exercises to free oneself from the cages of the soul, that is, to free oneself from attachments. For this will constantly drag one down, there will be a heaviness. But when overcoming the abyss of heaviness, there should be flight, soaring above the abyss...

In such cases, the ancient sages used ancient rods, such as the rod of the moon, the rod of the sun, made of gold and silver. There, real hovering over the abyss occurs during practice with them.

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But you need to imagine at least 10 or 12 images of this abyss in different situations, in different cases. That is, where can this be performed and how? Well, this is just an example. Working with visualization. With the element of wind. That is, the element of wind from the East should be very helpful here.

Is this from your personal experience crossing the Abyss of Da'at?

 

[MacLu69]

I'm stuck somewhere at the intersection of the areas or in the Da'at field.
They showed me roughly what it looks like, that is, it is connected to the ancient earth. At dawn, the ancient times of the earth were given, and the spirit that watched over the earth at that time
What they showed was like Ancient Tiamat Or ki - the Region, and it was in some kind of dark, secret abode. But be careful with this. Because it could somehow cause a local earthquake.
First, one must meditate for a long time on the ancient land, as it was called, the most ancient one was called.
Then you also need to receive a blessing from above for this practice. If the blessing was given, we feel warmth in the heart and pressure on the head from above by some force...

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Is this from your personal experience crossing the Abyss of Da'at?

Partially, yes. This task of the magician is to work with images for the One who understands these images better. The Absolute or the One with whom you work on a cosmic or spiritual level, that is, you need to think precisely in images, pictures.
Then you need to be able to launch these 10, 12 vectors of power and overcome barriers along the way. So that the energy of emotions and the charge for the magician in this practice will return multiple times. And then this guarantees that the forces will accept these emotional images. And after some time, you will.
After some time, you should receive the Ready-Made Recipe in the form of inspiration, but what you have imagined, you must then let go of and forget for a while, engage in routine monotony and after some time, the Ready-Made Recipe will unexpectedly come through inspiration from Above.