Suggestions for hard-headed individuals

[adpacero]

Hi,

I want to start out by saying I speak this in the most respectful way possible and mean no offense to anyone, it’s just my current mindset I’m trying to actively change. Ive experimented with a lot of religions and occult practices ranging from energy work, nlp, and hypnosis all the way to order of the golden dawn, demonology, and . Point being, over the past 15 years, I’ve read/experimented a lot in the field of the supernatural. However, I have been unable to convince myself of anything existing outside of the realm of physical reality, despite my best efforts to for a lack of a better term, “brainwash.” it seems my whole goal in life for quite some time now has Simply been to have a spiritual side and have a knowing that something exists that I cannot see.

With that being said, would anyone have any suggestions on how to train yourself to feel/see/hear/know non-physical world does exist? I’ve went as far as to travel to known “haunted” sites and graveyards after midnight etc to try to hunt ghosts down and even do superstitious things like walking on cracks and under ladders just to try to get a feeling that something will happen. I would say my biggest enemy is my mind itself. I’ve tried my best to perform method acting when actually performing magick but it seems I’m not able to fake the unconscious part of the mind to really believe.

How would one actually “trick” themselves into believing something that they feel like is not actually real/true despite how much they tell themself consciously it is? Because each time I try something and nothing happens, it feels like it just reinforces that “ spirituality doesn’t exist and is just self-delusion of the mind” mentality.

 

[Asteriskos]

You might read (and Practice) the contents of Mat Auryn's Psychic Witchcraft. There's a lot of Practical information, and it stresses Practice!
It's in the WF library, and it's good for those who "Want" to believe.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Well, if it's any help, I don't believe in the supernatural either. I do however know that there are many natural things that we don't have an explanation for, and which are normally labelled 'supernatural'. I know that magic exists; I've done it. I know that there is a thing that happens with humans that people normally call 'energy'; I've felt it, even when I wasn't trying.
When you try too hard, the logical/ focussing side of your brain gets in the way of the things you are hoping to experience. You should try to master empty mind meditation, or even just concentrate on your breath. Basically you need to learn how to quiet the 'monkey mind' that we all have. You can do magic by overloading the monkey mind, but unless you can get it to shut up on command, you won't feel the benefit.

 

[Asteriskos]

Another recommendation often given out here is Advanced Magic for Beginners by Alan Chapman which also stresses Practice!
Lot of Insights come from Practice!

 

[Tehuti]

Hi,

I want to start out by saying I speak this in the most respectful way possible and mean no offense to anyone, it’s just my current mindset I’m trying to actively change. Ive experimented with a lot of religions and occult practices ranging from energy work, nlp, and hypnosis all the way to order of the golden dawn, demonology, and . Point being, over the past 15 years, I’ve read/experimented a lot in the field of the supernatural. However, I have been unable to convince myself of anything existing outside of the realm of physical reality, despite my best efforts to for a lack of a better term, “brainwash.” it seems my whole goal in life for quite some time now has Simply been to have a spiritual side and have a knowing that something exists that I cannot see.

With that being said, would anyone have any suggestions on how to train yourself to feel/see/hear/know non-physical world does exist? I’ve went as far as to travel to known “haunted” sites and graveyards after midnight etc to try to hunt ghosts down and even do superstitious things like walking on cracks and under ladders just to try to get a feeling that something will happen. I would say my biggest enemy is my mind itself. I’ve tried my best to perform method acting when actually performing magick but it seems I’m not able to fake the unconscious part of the mind to really believe.

How would one actually “trick” themselves into believing something that they feel like is not actually real/true despite how much they tell themself consciously it is? Because each time I try something and nothing happens, it feels like it just reinforces that “ spirituality doesn’t exist and is just self-delusion of the mind” mentality.

The main problem is forcing yourself to experience the supernatural. When you chase signs or try to prove something exists, you create tension and block subtle perception.
The key is to relax and be fully present.
Instead of focusing on seeing or hearing something extraordinary, focus on ,Breathing,nner-body awareness ,Emotional shifts Subtle environmental changes
Over time, you may begin noticing temperature shifts, tingling sensations, changes in atmosphere, or deeper stillness not because you forced them, but because you became more aware.
The simple principle:
Stop trying to produce results. Be present during the process, and allow experience to unfold naturally.

 

[Asteriskos]

You might read (and Practice) the contents of Mat Auryn's Psychic Witchcraft. There's a lot of Practical information, and it stresses Practice!
It's in the WF library, and it's good for those who "Want" to believe.

There's a Lot of practical material in this book on changing and creating a positive "attitude". Doing something "practical" that will allow you "see improvement" little by little is a key to progress. Nothing here about stressing out in any form, it's not necessary as has been said.
But, if you have no "structure" or plan to follow, it's difficult to progress in anything in life, playing the piano or practicing magic, it's really that simple. Best of Luck to You!