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You remind me of the days i was hoarding for xmas tree ornaments. It is becoming a beautiful tree... And i asked bad santa to protect it. We had a long conversation and in the end we came to a deal: we go to war together, i just like it too much.

So to me the ones who take a bath and go forth are boring, i rather go kill crush and destroy myself. Whats the fun in doing nothing? But then again those people have a more demanding mundane life then i have.

So we all differ in dealing with unwanted presents, but in the end if you dont move long enough a present becomes a current and a source becomes a river.
Hmmm, I'm not sure I fully understand.

But, yeah, the people I know who do this (self included in many cases) have busy lives here on Earth and are greatful to our allies.

I mean, if I didn't have them....I'd just shoot a wizard and be done with it😁
 

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im not sure i understand here:
well there are some things i like and some vices i love. i understand this life is given to me with the purpose to be more them just a body so i tune my vices down. at least i try cause when i get that smell.... i know that when i go there i wont return. when i see mundane people i w3ant to be like that, but i know i cant due to my vices, so i work on middle ground for myself, where i can turn on my creativity again and my 6th sense finally works again safely.

one time long ago someone said to me i had to change and i didnt, i had so many loops we always styed opposites and then one day i decided you know what im gonna change the subject and then i change. what do you know we agree.

sometimes we humans really know better then the spirits.
 

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For all you seasoned adepts and magi who pulled themelves up in the magic world by their own bootstraps, how do you deal with wizards who have a bone to pick with you out of nowhere?
Are some people really that bored and malicious?
What are good grounds for magical war, vs self defense?
What's the best book on middle hand path or grey Magick cursing and binding?
I'm a newbie at those.
Don't participate in feuds like that. If someone wants to waste their time attacking you, let them. You have no reason to fear attacks by anyone as long as you are in control of your own life. Focus on your own goals and keep moving forward past all those kinds of people
 

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Lou, you should explain it like I did. I am such a holy man, so enlightened, spiritual and aetheric that I would float up to the sky and vanish forever if I wouldn't smoke cigars, eat fat, have wild sex and and drink a lot of booze.
 

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when they literally start to research who you actually are, you dont need to say all these things, sir mr holy moly man , they already believe you are...
 

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ive only met 3 people in my life who still where aware of a form of respect i quite appreciate, but i dont know anything further as it is them who gave me the respect. at those moments though its like there are more ways and views for everyone. more beautiful in the natural sense. at least in my eye.
 

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Some historical cases to consider:
1. Crowley vs. Mathers (and everyone else)...no comment.
2. Abbe Boullan, who took up head of a group called "The Work of Mercy" whom Levi denounced as evil due to its inversions, had a war with his ex-followers. Richard Cavendish spins the tale as a man who was so obsessed with his enemies that all it took was the cry of a black bird to kill him.
3. Anna Kingsford went to war against three vivisectionist doctors, including Louis Pasteur. She got two of them, but Pasteur survived, though he was struck ill. Kingsford died soon after of a lung infection. She seemed like such a nice and accomplished lady.
4. Dion Fortune has some nice anecdotes in The Occult Battle of Britain. Basically British Occultists fighting against Nazi black lodges. I've only read a synopsis so far, but finally found a download.
 

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4. Dion Fortune has some nice anecdotes in The Occult Battle of Britain. Basically British Occultists fighting against Nazi black lodges. I've only read a synopsis so far, but finally found a download.
I looked about and could only find the Magical Battle of Britain in paperback.
My mom participated during the war, in the underground bunker of Churchill, from where she was able to magically aid the RAF air men. I didn't know that anybody wrote about that sort of magical aid at the time, because there was a British law against practicing it. Even when Churchill got the law canceled after the war, it soon came back and people were arrested for practicing magic in England.

 

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Most humans cannot control their thoughts. Apparently random ill will may be coming from entities managing humans for adverse purposes
I'd be more interested in hearing that from occultists, the only mass spirit activity I detect the night.
 

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I looked about and could only find the Magical Battle of Britain in paperback.
I screwed up - The Occult Battle of Britain is by Paul Weston. My bad! I thought I got lucky but I got tricked by past experience with Dion Fortune name confusion of books. :oops:
I now recall that I had read the synopsis in of the Magical Battle of Britain in the Fortean Times. They still have it but you need a subscription to read it.

My mom participated during the war, in the underground bunker of Churchill, from where she was able to magically aid the RAF air men.
That's fascinating!

I didn't know that anybody wrote about that sort of magical aid at the time, because there was a British law against practicing it. Even when Churchill got the law canceled after the war, it soon came back and people were arrested for practicing magic in England.
I found this:
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You just gave me another rabbit hole to go down, thanks!
 

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If I remember correctly, Violet got bombed but didn't get hurt. Maybe he detected her?
He was specialised in detecting false buildings, vehicles and so on. I saw some of the photos and what he saw was not on them.
On the photos of himself he always wore the same glasses as Himmler. Later I found out that Himmler had designed them himself. And only for himself. There must have have been a very close connection between them I suppose.
 
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I suppose that what I may have been aiming for in the original question is let's suppose the question non whether it's self defense or not is beside the point, what then? I know a bit of the LHP. And the RHP. I know each side has contacts used, internal power used and a variety of spells or rituals at their fingertips, so what is the eventual endgame? Was it really worth it? There was no other way to resolve it?
 
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I was recently approached via pm on which side I served. I answered politely yet was somewhat sarcastic. Unfortunately with my personality, sarcasm is not often recognized from me nor do most find it funny.
So it looks like somebody was warring, or trying to find LHP brethren. I side for peace since I'm not getting any younger and there is so much to learn, and to enjoy in life.
 
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