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For all you seasoned adepts and magi who pulled themelves up in the magic world by their own bootstraps, how do you deal with wizards who have a bone to pick with you out of nowhere?
Are some people really that bored and malicious?
What are good grounds for magical war, vs self defense?
What's the best book on middle hand path or grey Magick cursing and binding?
I'm a newbie at those.
Jason Miller's Protection and Reversal Magic is a phenomenal start. Also, I don't get into wars or anything with other Occultists (new agers and paranormal researchers is a different story) but I do set and reinforce my protective wards on a weekly basis just in case anyone tries to send shit my way. Also my spirits look out for me; my ancestors, HGA, spirits I have parts with, etc.
 
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I'd like to add Fuego that since I've known you have had a pervasive and irrational fear of psychic attack from other magicians. I don't know if this is some drama based game you play with your self or what. It does seem to reflect a general victim mentality, it's always someone else's fault you're not succeeding in the occult or life. You gotta stop this man, you're only fucking yourself mostly man. But that victim mentality and your incessant whining does make you an attractive target of opportunity to magi looking to test new baneful magic.

Fuego are there people evil and malicious enough to attack you without reasonable cause..yes sure but what do they gain from stomping on an armchair magician destined to be a neophyte forever.

Most mages don't have time to entertain that and there certainly isn't any glory to be found in it. You aren't what most competent mages would call "a worthy adversary"

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being a cockhead but someone, sometimes to kick you the facts in a way you'll get it for sure.
 
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I'd like to add Fuego that since I've known you have had a pervasive and irrational fear of psychic attack from other magicians. I don't know if this is some drama based game you play with your self or what. It does seem to reflect a general victim mentality, it's always someone else's fault you're not succeeding in the occult or life. You gotta stop this man, you're only fucking yourself mostly man. But that victim mentality and your incessant whining does make you an attractive target of opportunity to magi looking to test new baneful magic.

Fuego are there people evil and malicious enough to attack you without reasonable cause..yes sure but what do they gain from stomping on an armchair magician destined to be a neophyte forever.

Most mages don't have time to entertain that and there certainly isn't any glory to be found in it. You aren't what most competent mages would call "a worthy adversary"

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being a cockhead but someone, sometimes to kick you the facts in a way you'll get it for sure.
All great points, thanks.
 

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Note of warning

for people playing with baneful magic, most if not all the time it’s not even worth it to curse someone.

idk How many times some clown has cursed someone over something petty just for it to be sent back and it wrecks them badly. And I mean...BAD

its best not to curse someone unless it’s important, say someone is a danger to you, there are many reasons for this.

For one, you should only curse them measure for measure, say someone stole from you, maybe that person will lose tons of cash too.

if someone trolls you online and you say I WILL SEND A DEATH CURSE!!! That’s just retarded. If they know what they’re doing they can speak to their spirits and send it back. And many times the protecting spirit will not be happy.

second, if your curse does succeed, sometimes it’s not worth it. you got revenge over something dumb was it worth it to wreck someone’s life?

third, if someone wrongs you it can be best to let it go, IF YOU CAN for karmic reasons. If you don’t cut the karmic ties That person may need to pay you back in another incarnation but you need to return as well to be satisfied.

there’s a story by The Baal Shem Tov, he sent a student to a certain place and just observe, don’t do anything. The man saw a rich man lay down for a nap, he had with him a large bag of gold, when he woke up and left he left the bag.

A poor man came found the bag p, took it and left

A third man came and sat, the rich man returned and asked where the money was, the third man said idk dude, the rich man didn’t believe him and kicked his ass.

at sun set the student returned back to The Baal Shem Tov, the Rabbi said, in a past life the rich man stole from the poor man, this was him getting back his money, the third man who got beat up was the corrupt judge who sided with the thief. All Three had to return

if the poor man had forgiven the rich man he wouldn’t have to return for that, if the rich man had repented likewise
 
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Note of warning

for people playing with baneful magic, most if not all the time it’s not even worth it to curse someone.

idk How many times some clown has cursed someone over something petty just for it to be sent back and it wrecks them badly. And I mean...BAD

its best not to curse someone unless it’s important, say someone is a danger to you, there are many reasons for this.

For one, you should only curse them measure for measure, say someone stole from you, maybe that person will lose tons of cash too.

if someone trolls you online and you say I WILL SEND A DEATH CURSE!!! That’s just retarded. If they know what they’re doing they can speak to their spirits and send it back. And many times the protecting spirit will not be happy.

second, if your curse does succeed, sometimes it’s not worth it. you got revenge over something dumb was it worth it to wreck someone’s life?

third, if someone wrongs you it can be best to let it go, IF YOU CAN for karmic reasons. If you don’t cut the karmic ties That person may need to pay you back in another incarnation but you need to return as well to be satisfied.

there’s a story by The Baal Shem Tov, he sent a student to a certain place and just observe, don’t do anything. The man saw a rich man lay down for a nap, he had with him a large bag of gold, when he woke up and left he left the bag.

A poor man came found the bag p, took it and left

A third man came and sat, the rich man returned and asked where the money was, the third man said idk dude, the rich man didn’t believe him and kicked his ass.

at sun set the student returned back to The Baal Shem Tov, the Rabbi said, in a past life the rich man stole from the poor man, this was him getting back his money, the third man who got beat up was the corrupt judge who sided with the thief. All Three had to return

if the poor man had forgiven the rich man he wouldn’t have to return for that, if the rich man had repented likewise
Baal Shem tov, master of the good name..love that dude
 

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He was specialised in detecting false buildings, vehicles and so on. I saw some of the photos and what he saw was not on them.
On the photos of himself he always wore the same glasses as Himmler. Later I found out that Himmler had designed them himself. And only for himself. There must have have been a very close connection between them I suppose.
This is a trip. I think it deserves an essay!
I am somewhat familiar with Himmler's occult activities from the endless flood of documentaries that pour through the history channels. The thing that struck me the most was that he had a castle where he and SS men would perform sacrificial rites, but I think it was more a rumor upon which theory was built. Note: Peter Levenda was a guest on that particular program:unsure:
 
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It makes me wonder though, why Hitler was obcessed with occultism related to Israelites, while declaring war on all non Aryan, particularly Jews.
Or. That could be related to having watched Indiana Jones and the raiders of the lost Ark.
It makes me wonder exactly what area of occultism they were really into.
 

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wonder though, why Hitler was obcessed with occultism related to Israelites
Moses acquired technical devices from where he had hidden them is a previous life - such as a rod that parted the sea.

Hitler was very keen on alien technology so sent a team into the area around Rennes-le-Chateau searching in caves for the devices that the Templars had recovered from under Temple Mount in Jerusalem
 

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This is a trip. I think it deserves an essay!
I am somewhat familiar with Himmler's occult activities from the endless flood of documentaries that pour through the history channels. The thing that struck me the most was that he had a castle where he and SS men would perform sacrificial rites, but I think it was more a rumor upon which theory was built. Note: Peter Levenda was a guest on that particular program:unsure:
Himmler had that Castle, the Wewelsburg and it still exists. There also exists a documentary about the work of my grandpa. And I have photos of course.
 

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Didnt aquino do rituals at wewelsburg?

Ownchef, how did you deal with your ancestors and the common ruling about nazis being bad?
I ask, because everyone is prone on helping, but death nazis are still bad. I realized this when i went to the cemetary and got a view of exclusion, but also the silence with family. Which i understand. I know some of my uncles went in hiding, but also some in nsdap.
 

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My Grandma tried to poison me when I was a kid. From there it went really down. It was not who they were, but what they thought. Ice cold hate ready to extinguish your own blood.
 

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Ah same as my mum, born after the war, but with a mum and 12 stepsyblings who did. All are crazy. Due to it im quite aware of mengeles head ad how to heal so called psychiatric diseases, no fun video though.
 
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It just doesn't get any easier. People will tread on you and trespass against you if you do not stand up for yourself. I know this
In fact, I already did a lot of fighting in my life. That ride will never stop, tho.

Thanks indeed, Al Khatun.
first hand. I'm not a bully but I will throw the first punch and I don't expect my friends to intercede for me usually. I say just watch my back I've got your front. While not being a bully I'm not afraid to say what I mean or take stand for what I know is right either. I'm not going to make everyone happy and I couldn't give a fuck actually.
 
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Thanks all, all good advice. I wish I could put more lengthy words into t this reply, but I'm groggy and really do appreciate all of you and the advice in lengthy replies. So a sincere Thank you.
 
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