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im in discussion with redittors while setting up several new occult flows. so sort of recruiting ;)
 

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You remind me of the days i was hoarding for xmas tree ornaments. It is becoming a beautiful tree... And i asked bad santa to protect it. We had a long conversation and in the end we came to a deal: we go to war together, i just like it too much.

So to me the ones who take a bath and go forth are boring, i rather go kill crush and destroy myself. Whats the fun in doing nothing? But then again those people have a more demanding mundane life then i have.

So we all differ in dealing with unwanted presents, but in the end if you dont move long enough a present becomes a current and a source becomes a river.
Damn girl!!!
 
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It seems to me some of the newer people should read this cringe worthy material.

However...it does seem to be a rite of passage to war amongst each other, I recall seeing people throwing curses at each other on Usenet. Not necessarily serious harm, just jinxes or hexes or minor maledictions.

I mean, what if you have to? Do you know how good your offense or defense are?

Wards and shields, how effective are they? How effective is your LBRP?
 

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I don't think I've ever had anyone bother to do magic war on me. I've only clashed with one magician afaik, and that was because I laughed at him calling himself "Magus" and slagged off his favourite sci-fi book. I don't recall any consequences, either magical or non-magical from that.
 
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I have a ... Way with certain people, that rubs them the wrong way. Perhaps that's an additional aspect to work on. I just decided to update this thread due to the antichrist war that started..
 

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I have a ... Way with certain people, that rubs them the wrong way.
I too have this way - in my case it's called "being really annoying" :D

Really though, it's just a consequence of being myself. As Julian Cope said to us as he strolled on stage one night looking like a homeless Nazi on a beach holiday: "I think you can tell by the way I dress, I'm not trying to be everyone's friend"
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Also, my usual riposte when arguments get a bit heated between two other people is:

"Girls, girls! You're BOTH pretty!"
 
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that was because I laughed at him calling himself "Magus" and slagged off his favourite sci-fi book. I don't recall any consequences, either magical or non-magical from that.
I doubt a legit mage/magus of worth would even get their ego hurt by a simple comment.
Exactly because to study magic means to develop yourself, and someone that develops themselves won't care about a minor comment like that.
 

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I doubt a legit mage/magus of worth would even get their ego hurt by a simple comment.
Exactly because to study magic means to develop yourself, and someone that develops themselves won't care about a minor comment like that.
If you can't take a joke you become the joke.
 

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Yes, you can say whatever you want but sometimes it's better to eat your own tongue and let the jokes aside
 

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Coming soon - Mars enters Aries April 30, Tuesday at 11:32 AM, a good time to make sigil paper for your protection, infused with a tincture of dragons blood made from resin, and/or herbs such as sage. Here is a good book to make sigils/talismans: Liber Azag: The Book of Sigils by Frater Akenu. You can get parchment paper from the dollar store or use construction paper, and make your own ink with coffee grinds or charcoal.
 

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Coming soon - Mars enters Aries April 30, Tuesday at 11:32 AM, a good time to make sigil paper for your protection, infused with a tincture of dragons blood made from resin, and/or herbs such as sage. Here is a good book to make sigils/talismans: Liber Azag: The Book of Sigils by Frater Akenu. You can get parchment paper from the dollar store or use construction paper, and make your own ink with coffee grinds or charcoal.
Just to link the book here:
 

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As a general rule (which is worth my remembering too), always sleep on it. If someone is being deliberately provocative, it'll still be there to respond to the next day if you choose to give energy to it and, at that point, it will be an active choice, rather than the pull of reactivity and one-up-manship that internet rage sucks people into.
 

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It makes me wonder though, why Hitler was obcessed with occultism related to Israelites, while declaring war on all non Aryan, particularly Jews.
Or. That could be related to having watched Indiana Jones and the raiders of the lost Ark.
It makes me wonder exactly what area of occultism they were really into.
He believed in nature and that the will of the Creator was observable in nature. Thus his respect for strength and struggle. He felt Christianity with its universalism, forgiveness and brotherly love was weakening force in the West. I recall he was also quoted as saying that the gods of war had abandoned them and joined the side of the Russ. He also was influenced by the Thule society, which I know little about. I don’t think the Nazis had a coherent occult doctrine but they were in the process of forming one. He appointed the Lutheran church as the state church at the time. Probably out of necessity to recognize the will of the people.
 

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For all you seasoned adepts and magi who pulled themelves up in the magic world by their own bootstraps, how do you deal with wizards who have a bone to pick with you out of nowhere?
Are some people really that bored and malicious?
What are good grounds for magical war, vs self defense?
What's the best book on middle hand path or grey Magick cursing and binding?
I'm a newbie at those.
Failing everything else, read or re-read, "Protection and Reversal Magick" by Jason Miller.
Most of the Crap should simply disperse before getting anywhere near your aura,
You've been commenting on, and reading these forums for like, "Years"?
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Failing everything else, read or re-read, "Protection and Reversal Magick" by Jason Miller.
Most of the Crap should simply disperse before getting anywhere near your aura,
You've been commenting on, and reading these forums for like, "Years"?
Oh yeah, Miller's Strategic Sorcery Course has a lesson on "Attack Magic" if you feel you gotta hit'em hard where it hurts! 👍
It's in the library here. Good Luck.
 
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For all you seasoned adepts and magi who pulled themelves up in the magic world by their own bootstraps, how do you deal with wizards who have a bone to pick with you out of nowhere?
Are some people really that bored and malicious?
What are good grounds for magical war, vs self defense?
What's the best book on middle hand path or grey Magick cursing and binding?
I'm a newbie at those.
I do shadow work, and realise, their perception of me, is a reflection on them, and anything they put at me, Is going to be reflected at them ten fold. especially knowing my soul is pure. you can learn a LOT from how your enemy reflects parts of your unhealed shadow onto you. utilise this, as a healing tool. act in a completely unexpected way, meaning, do not react. do nothing. when you are compromised and must strike, do so from the shadows long after the initial attack is worn down, and only if necessary. for protection and prevention is far more powerful than deflection and defense and warfare. but I am a female, yet I have a more adept female occultist who hounds me perpetually, I choose not to strike, as why would I? she knows FAR more. i learn, act, work with my spirits, and one day, should she continue, I have the option coming from a place of power NOT peril.

i am never one to initiate futile or meaningless warfare. especially in an already divisive world. i believe in creation, connection and collaboration, I am sick of all the in fighting and the pettiness I've witnessed in the occult community in my ten years as a ceremonial practitioner. it's all petty and about cutting one another down, and destruction rather than collaborating and utilising our CREATIVE talents to build a better world. it makes no sense. (IM TALKING RHP PRIMARILY TOO)

More creative collaboration is done on the LHP from my recent observations, so a balanced unification might be required.
Harmony; cohesiveness. NO, not everyone has to agree. but can we stop destroying things, the last temple I was in was just putrid with ego and based on downgrading people who didn't agree with the "leader" and "segregation" while claiming the total opposite. as a result it caused divide nd conquer, just as bad as the church to me. all the leader wanted to do was engage in war with other occultists, while claiming all sorts of conspiracy about them without any tangible proof. nothing to back up his magick. claimed he was the most [owrrfful occultist in the world. tried to kill half the political leaders he didn't like, it was borderline cultish and deadset and exhausting because I was told he was against pedophilia but not once ever did he help do a single thing about that.
only ego ego ego, wizard war against every other occultist (mainly ONA an E.A Koetting), it gets cumbersome. i never saw E.A say a word against him, and I don't like e.a Koetting that much but the marketing model he uses is effective, you have to admit there was a little ex-mormon jealousy thing happening.
i was the only one who spoke up, and I got belittled. so I won't stand for such demeaning behaviour.

its people like this guy who wizard war others, he nearly 50, hasn't done his shadow work and is RPG gaming while proclaiming some big lies all over the internet. actions and manifestation are merit. not lies and excuses. so ego and ignoring your shadow will entertain so called "most powerful wizard in the world" who give you a long spiel but have nothing to show at all. it's f*ckboioccultism at it's finest.

do your shadow work, go within, protect yourself, and know your spirits value those who do shadow work over the faux ego. that is all.
 
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