[Opinion] Is creation a trap?

[Firetree]

I don't understand what is meant by creation being a 'trap' . To me , creation is an 'inevitable unfolding ' . . . on all three levels ( macro, human & micro ) .

 

[Sedim Haba]

It sorta

I don't understand what is meant by creation being a 'trap' . To me , creation is an 'inevitable unfolding ' . . . on all three levels ( macro, human & micro ) .

means this world is an illusion or mask, which to a certain extent I do think. But, it's the framework we must operate in, so what does that matter?

 

[Firetree]

I am familiar with the philosophical idea of material creation being 'an illusion' , but to me that does not automatically mean it is a 'trap' .

 

[zyfrtheFirst]

Well if it weren’t for creation, then we wouldn’t even exist to be TRAPPED, so i suppose it is besides the point.
If I create a machine, then the machine does now exist as an ENTITY (as opposed to a series of parts). The parts scattered were not conscious - free from structure, they were in a chaotic ONENESS with their surroundings. Only when ordered, did they become capable of being conscious of themselves.

Now say the machine resents its creation because it’s creator has trapped it at this level, with this form. Is this ethical?
The short answer is we have no choice. The creator was the one that put the parts together in the first place so they don’t even have to hear the question. He was the one that gave you the ability to complain in the first place , so how would you ask that question if he Had not made you that way in the first place?

The question is moot, IMO

 

[Firetree]

Except that ^ involves the whole 'creator thing' ( that might be the trap; assuming a creator ? ) - if it is an 'inevitable unfolding ' , no need for 'a creator' or a 'trap' .

 

[Ohana]

Well if it weren’t for creation, then we wouldn’t even exist to be TRAPPED, so i suppose it is besides the point.
If I create a machine, then the machine does now exist as an ENTITY (as opposed to a series of parts). The parts scattered were not conscious - free from structure, they were in a chaotic ONENESS with their surroundings. Only when ordered, did they become capable of being conscious of themselves.

Now say the machine resents its creation because it’s creator has trapped it at this level, with this form. Is this ethical?
The short answer is we have no choice. The creator was the one that put the parts together in the first place so they don’t even have to hear the question. He was the one that gave you the ability to complain in the first place , so how would you ask that question if he Had not made you that way in the first place?

The question is moot, IMO

I don't know if there is a creator but I want to complain. I want to complain for a very long time. Thats what I want to do personally.

 

[Firetree]

The Lord does have a ' complaints in ' trays .... but its one of those bottomless ones that sit over the waste paper bin .

 

[Sedim Haba]

I thought it was the shredder, meself...

 

[Firetree]

We could start a 'class action ' complaint thread here .