Anyone find that your Religion/God messes with your magick and actively ruins your life?

[HocusPocus]

I grew up Buddhist, I am not anymore. Still I pray once in a while to hedge my best in the afterlife, it seems like my Buddhist practices are actively interfering with my magick spells to improve my life i.e increase iq, etc.

I've gotten alot of good results from Gallery of Magick's books but something about Buddhism doesn't seem to like the fact that I am enjoying my life and infact now that my life is better I noticed Buddhism actually exacerbated my mental and emotional issues rather than solve it.

 

[Jackson]

Buddhism is extremely broad sir

 

[IllusiveOwl]

something about Buddhism doesn't seem to like the fact that I am enjoying my life

You could argue that you enjoying your life goes against the four noble truths. Enjoyment = suffering. Everything is fire, the Buddha said. Perhaps you should try Christianity if you just want to relax, occassionally pray, enjoy life, and offhandedly hope for a better afterlife with no need for self improvement or development

 

[HocusPocus]

Buddhism is extremely broad sir

They all believe in the same Dharma don't they? Just different ways.

But I grew up Mahayana and started veering towards Vajrayana before I left.

 

[Jackson]

They all believe in the same Dharma don't they?

Do they? Not all that relevant if you're not in it.

 

[HocusPocus]

Do they? Not all that relevant if you're not in it.

Well either way, Mahyana and Vajrayana if that's helpful to you.

 

[Xenophon]

I grew up Buddhist, I am not anymore. Still I pray once in a while to hedge my best in the afterlife, it seems like my Buddhist practices are actively interfering with my magick spells to improve my life i.e increase iq, etc.

I've gotten alot of good results from Gallery of Magick's books but something about Buddhism doesn't seem to like the fact that I am enjoying my life and infact now that my life is better I noticed Buddhism actually exacerbated my mental and emotional issues rather than solve it.

Hemingway said we spend our lives trying to escape familial influences. Those influences include the religion one was reared in. There are some strains of magick that advise one to do acts that run counter to his earlier beliefs. This, indeed, is the point of rites like the Black Mass. BUT, one is to do these as a phase in his training. It is not meant to become a new way of life. Also one needs a great deal of self-knowledge and insight. The practice can destroy some individuals while being catharsis for others.

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Do they? Not all that relevant if you're not in it.

Isn't OP's point that he was into it? That, like Br'er Rabbit and Tar Baby, he can't get unstuck? In which case it's relevant.

 

[Wintruz]

I grew up Buddhist, I am not anymore. Still I pray once in a while to hedge my best in the afterlife, it seems like my Buddhist practices are actively interfering with my magick spells to improve my life i.e increase iq, etc.

I've gotten alot of good results from Gallery of Magick's books but something about Buddhism doesn't seem to like the fact that I am enjoying my life and infact now that my life is better I noticed Buddhism actually exacerbated my mental and emotional issues rather than solve it.

Interestingly, I had a similar experience with religious forms which I was raised within.

I'd hazard that any blockages are not inherent in the form but in what the form means to you. In other words, it's not the Buddha intervening to stop you from having a good time. The likelihood is that you have stored energy in your idea of Buddhism (the Buddhist school is irrelevant at this individualised level) and that you have unfinished work to do there. If you have found meaning in Buddhism or if it has "worked" for you at any stage then you can increase that likelihood a hundred-fold.

You may well come back to your childhood practices once you have attained a measure of success through what you're presently practicing. Buddhism may be "anchoring" you to something that you need later but it won't hamper your magical experiments provided that those experiments do not violate your conscience.

 

[Jackson]

Isn't OP's point that he was into it?

Doesn't seem that he was to me. His family was. Is no difference to me.

But I agree with him. He doesn't seem much involved in it.

 

[Xenophon]

Doesn't seem that he was to me. His family was. Is no difference to me.

But I agree with him. He doesn't seem much involved in it.

OK. The problem with religions is they sink deep roots. Those roots manifest at magickally inopportune moments. Look at how many old roughnecks undergo deathbed conversions. If OP is trying to evoke Asmodeus and Guan Yin keeps popping into mind, it could queer the whole deal.

 

[Jackson]

If OP is trying to evoke Asmodeus and Guan Yin keeps popping into mind, it could queer the whole deal.

I would be very impressed if the deep roots he isn't much involved with, interfered with the arte he isn't much involved in.

I would beg for his teaching. I don't think he much knows what he's doing either way.

 

[Xenophon]

I would be very impressed if the deep roots he isn't much involved with, interfered with the arte he isn't much involved in.

I would beg for his teaching. I don't think he much knows what he's doing either way.

"Which of you, if his child asks for bread will give him a stone?" (Luke 11:11) I guess we just got the answer to that question. OP posed a reasonable query. Why the insults? The problem he touches on is a fairly frequent one, and not just among neophytes.

 

[Jackson]

Why the insults? The problem he touches on is a fairly frequent one, and not just among neophytes.

No insult, I just don't think he much has the problem presented. He has a mild interest in mild objects.

Is he going to denounce his "hedge in the afterlife" on behalf of mild IQ increase?

 

[Xenophon]

Could be, in which case my apologies.

 

[Jackson]

If Buddhism has exacerbated your mental and emotional issues, then what are the Buddhist particulars you speak of?

 

[Xenophon]

If Buddhism has exacerbated your mental and emotional issues, then what are the Buddhist particulars you speak of?

I know you're asking OP, but I stumbled on an interesting answer to that question the other day. Donald Webb wrote of how Shakyamuni successfully weathered all the temptations posed by Mara only to succumb to the lure of Nirvana. For the LHP, that'd be a real stumbling block, craving for Nirvana, if I may.

 

[Jackson]

I know you're asking OP, but I stumbled on an interesting answer to that question the other day. Donald Webb wrote of how Shakyamuni successfully weathered all the temptations posed by Mara only to succumb to the lure of Nirvana. For the LHP, that'd be a real stumbling block, craving for Nirvana, if I may.

Craving could be a stumbling block for Buddhism. Op has more a Buddhist heritage than he is a Buddhist. I don't get the impression his cravings are all that developed either.

 

[Xenophon]

Craving could be a stumbling block for Buddhism. Op has more a Buddhist heritage than he is a Buddhist. I don't get the impression his cravings are all that developed either.

If you can read a man's cravings from his internet posts about religion, they'd have to have hypertrophied rather grotesquely.

 

[Jackson]

If you can read a man's cravings from his internet posts about religion, they'd have to have hypertrophied rather grotesquely.

He reportedly enjoys life. What will he do with the mundane magic that appears to be his object?

 

[Xenophon]

He reportedly enjoys life. What will he do with the mundane magic that appears to be his object?

Most magi wind up complicating their life trying to perfect it. Happiness is like tumescence. One no sooner gets it than he starts trying to f*** with it.