Harvesting Chi of others

[Jackson]

It is possible to perform exercises to improve the flow e.g. by using the in-breath to pull more life force for deficient organs.

I believe I had done this before, but while I could probably manage to research it, if you would like, you could suggest a specific work on the subject apart from an entire book on Blavatsky.

 

[Roma]

Did I describe the exercise in one of my posts?

 

[Jackson]

Did I describe the exercise in one of my posts?

I am not an expert on the subject of your posts, but if I was going to read 1,700+ pages of anything, it would probably be something else - anything else.

 

[Xenophon]

I am not an expert on the subject of your posts, but if I was going to read 1,700+ pages of anything, it would probably be something else - anything else.

If I'm not mistaken, Blatvatsky's books are measured in cubic meters of shelf space, not pages. As in, "According to the Oxfart Dictionary, one blavatsky equals 1.76 cubic meters. Example: 'Barth's Systematische Theologie is an immense work. Nearly 13 blatvaskys in hard cover edition.'"

 

[ishtarfol]

I think in practical terms, qi cultivation should be a daily and ongoing process. Meaning, you'll probably just do it in your bedroom, or living room, or balcony or garden or something. Unless you live by the beach or in the mountains it's just not practical to find such spots everyday. Better a daily practice in your bedroom than once a month on the hilltop.

As long you keep to common sense things like not doing it in the toilet, or next to a dustbin, and keep away from weird things like trying to suck energy from your neighbours cat or the local cemetery or even worse the electric outlet, you'll be fine.

 

[Xenophon]

I think in practical terms, qi cultivation should be a daily and ongoing process. Meaning, you'll probably just do it in your bedroom, or living room, or balcony or garden or something. Unless you live by the beach or in the mountains it's just not practical to find such spots everyday. Better a daily practice in your bedroom than once a month on the hilltop.

As long you keep to common sense things like not doing it in the toilet, or next to a dustbin, and keep away from weird things like trying to suck energy from your neighbours cat or the local cemetery or even worse the electric outlet, you'll be fine.

The Aghori sadhus in India do hang out in graveyards apparently doing just that. I'm guessing this takes highly specialized training and maybe a certain bent of personality.

 

[Jackson]

The shitter dilutes the qi?

 

[Xenophon]

The shitter dilutes the qi?

Could be it turns it to really bad shit.

 

[ishtarfol]

Pretty much, I guess. Same with sewers, landfills, and so on, doesnt Agrippa say that different kinds of places attract different kinds of spirits, and such places attract Saturnine amd "dirty" spirits (and energies). Unless for some reason you feel you need more of that in your life and body, then sure.

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Or... If you want to do it because some stranger on the internet says to, and I'm not the boss of you, then by all means too

 

[Xenophon]

Pretty much, I guess. Same with sewers, landfills, and so on, doesnt Agrippa say that different kinds of places attract different kinds of spirits, and such places attract Saturnine amd "dirty" spirits (and energies). Unless for some reason you feel you need more of that in your life and body, then sure.

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Or... If you want to do it because some stranger on the internet says to, and I'm not the boss of you, then by all means too

Actually, the prevailing Zeitgeist is more of an "I'll-do-it-because-someone-said-not-to" imp. "The grimoire says to do a banishing AND cast a circle?! A circle dictated by some diagram?! Why them patriarchal muvverfuzzers, I'll show them, I will!"

 

[Ziran]

Hi all, Ave,

I have a shaman and LHP friend who had people staying with her, and she knows energy abundant was hanging in the air (the people staying with her have no shielding or grounding, and were humping like camels..bunnies)

So, two questions:
1. How does a beginner get to sensing energy, their own or others,
2. How does a beginner harvest that available Chi?

Thanks, Care,

Nocte Ac Die, Diluculo.

Hello Diluculo,

After reading the replies, it sounds to me that this is not harvesting chi. Instead I would consider it a form of sorcery. Chi has a specific defintion from the tradition where it originated. It also has a general meaning outside of the tradition. From within that tradition of origin, my understanding is, Chi is not harvested from another. However, from a different framework it is certainly possible for a sorcerer to conjure their own "chi" or vigor from what ever it is that is "inspiring" to them.

If this is a proper model for understanding the phenomena your friend is describing, then, the answer to question #1 is a self exploration of what is inspiring to the beginner. If it is inspiring to consider "harvesting chi from another" that gives clues to the sort of "things" which are inspiring to them. If they are inspired by the humping of camels and bunnnies that is occuring in close proximity, then that is also part of the sorcerer's tool kit. Through experimentation, the beginner learns about themself and what is inspiring to them.

If this sounds like a simple mundane idea, that's because it is. However, if an individual is clever, and persistent, they will learn how to layer these inspiring ideas, events, symbols together into a spell or a ritual or a meditation. And that is how it works. The layering is what produces the profound effect, in my opinion. Although if there is something which is strongly inspiring to the individual, then perhaps, layer is not needed. This is where archetypes come into play.

A common example that I've heard is that going to bars and clubs is swarming and "buzzing" with energy, and this can be "harvested". I do not agree with these words, because, what I think is happening instead is that the vigor/vitality is being conjured by the individual, it's not being harvested from anyone. But the surroundings are inspiring and this is a component of the "spell" that is being cast. The target is themself, not the others.

My opinion is that this model of sorcery is a good fit for many of the other examples brought in the thread of harvesting chi, YMMV.

 

[Roma]

Life force (chi/prana) pervades all of Existence. The human is quite entitled to take the life force directly but usually not from other beings.

Breast feeding a baby is an obvious exception.

Life force in the Hindu tradition is differentiated into the five electricities. Differentiation of life force allows more delicate operations by the wise wizard

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[Jackson]

After reading the replies, it sounds to me that this is not harvesting chi. Instead I would consider it a form of sorcery. Chi has a specific defintion from the tradition where it originated.

There if you have it, if you wanted to know "how to become better at sensing chi", try looking up the tradition it came from.

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Thank you all

 

[Djnenas]

This is an interesting subject indeed. So much to consider depending on everyone's personal perspective. I just finished reading this book named The Magnum Opus: A Step by Step Course by John Kreiter... it is a pretty interesting course with some good energetic practices. He talks about some interesting concepts about energy re absorption for the purpose of regaining lost energy. In this book he lays out a whole routine for the attainment of your very own Philosopher's Stone (or Pearl). Not to mention the added benefit of freeing yourself from the Archon. I will most definitely try out the whole course in practice to check it out. But ill admit that it will take some time to develop a steady practice even though the routines he presents are most definitely doable no matter your schedule. As long as there is a will, there will be a way

 

[Roma]

Most human energy is equivalent to junk food

Nevertheless plants and creeks are pleased to take human energies - even traumatic. The human refines the energy and lesser species are pleased to have it

 

[Polarity]

I would agree with Darangal's description of other people's energy being like junk food or a sugary caffeine drink - you can get a quick fix, but you won't necessarily like the results. You can easily pick up another person's needs, habits, focus, behaviors, vices and other psychological patterns, good and bad, and I can't say for sure if these can be "filtered out" to only select the "traits" you desire. I remember when I 1st tried the method Catpottery described:

Visualize a tendril emanating from your spleen chakra toward your target's spleen chakra. In between this, visualize a filter to keep any bad, unwanted energies out. Then, suck them dry.

I used this technique when I was 15-16. I connected to the guy's 1st 2nd and 3rd chakra with tendrils and started draining for a couple of minutes. I thought he'd be a good candidate for this because he was apparently strong, young, well built, athletic etc. In the next couple of weeks I felt that I picked up his tastes and habits - for example: never in the past did I enjoy fast food, or too much alcohol, or cigarettes, but I started feeling this gluttony and I'd eat more in a single meal than before.

My, let's say "corporeal desires" also increased, and I was feeling very in tune with my body. In a way, I became more material(istic). I think my overall energy became denser (or of "lower frequency", lower grade).

His "energy sample" was like a perfume I was carrying for a while, which had a certain impact: Women liked it and they responded significantly better to me (which was one of the main reasons why I started this experiment in the first place), I enjoyed doing physical stuff more than ever before, my (physical) senses became sharper and people felt my presence was "stronger" and they would court me more. The way my environment treated me was certainly better.

At the time, I didn't bother with wondering if this sort of operation would have any lasting effects on me (or on him), or if it would wear off after a while. As long as you inject yourself with another person's patterns, you are preventing yourself from expressing your true nature, because you are expressing their "borrowed" nature. This is all only my interpretation of one of my experiences, and is in no way an attempt to give advice or tell others what they should or shouldn't do.

Harvesting is an interesting topic and I'll return for a part 2.

 

[rice candy]

Both the intentional and unintentional harvesting of Chi is more common than one may think.

The most direct method would be through contact with other bodily fluids (ex: blood, saliva, etc..) or physical contact (ex: hand shake, hugs, etc..) or through consumption (ex: eating meat, plants, etc..). But there are many more ways via energy work, magic, and spiritual contact.

Perhaps I'm not seeing how this is an ethical dilemma as taking in Chi is a very necessary component to staying alive.