There is no One World Order

[Xenophon]

Oh, Animal Farm? I think I heard of it on TikTok, it's this right?

If human behavior is so transparent and predictable that our whole species political bullshit can be explained in an allegorical story 128 pages long, I don't see why it's so farfetched that a being with slightly more processing power than us would be able to effectively maintain control while keeping up the natural appearance of chaotic violent stupidity that is our world's stage.

I assume people know Animal Farm. But the other day I got my pee-pee whacked in the forum for a Monty Python reference. Not a case of cultural ignorance, just a sign culture has split its seams and there's too much crap to keep in mind.

The notion that we are somehow under the thumb of other beings, and not necessarily benevolent ones, has a lot of traction lately.

 

[Taudefindi]

To believe in the existence of a secret one world order, requires a level of faith in groups made up of humans that I do not possess.

Exactly this.
Humans have shown many times that no matter how long alliances last, and how strong relationships are, there will always be humans that betray for greed.So no true "one world order" would be able to last.

And when it comes to the "reptilians" or other types of beings "neddling with mankind's history" I also do not believe that.

Because such beings-if real-would have better and bigger things to do than play Sims with humans.

As Above So Below, we have cattle, non-human entities have us

Cattle is used for food.I doubt those NHEs would be so crass as to use humans(another sentient species, though maybe lesser in the technology scale) as food too.

The notion that we are somehow under the thumb of other beings, and not necessarily benevolent ones, has a lot of traction lately.

People feel the need to blame such beings for all the bad things happening in their lives, rather than admit that it is because of things outside their control(admission of lack of power) or that it is because of their own choices(admission of weakness/lack of accountability).

 

[Xenophon]

Exactly this.
Humans have shown many times that no matter how long alliances last, and how strong relationships are, there will always be humans that betray for greed.So no true "one world order" would be able to last.

And when it comes to the "reptilians" or other types of beings "neddling with mankind's history" I also do not believe that.

Because such beings-if real-would have better and bigger things to do than play Sims with humans.



Cattle is used for food.I doubt those NHEs would be so crass as to use humans(another sentient species, though maybe lesser in the technology scale) as food too.


People feel the need to blame such beings for all the bad things happening in their lives, rather than admit that it is because of things outside their control(admission of lack of power) or that it is because of their own choices(admission of weakness/lack of accountability).

No. Napoleon made a number of tactical mistakes in invading Russia (bad choices.) Likewise the weather turned nastier than expected (stuff outside his control.) The fact remains that the Russians were the overwhelmingly bad thing that whupped him. (The beings whose control he wound up under.) Owning one's choices and knowing bad stuff happens in no way discredits the notion that one is under oppression.

I have lived on several continents. For some reason, it is the West (and the Western-influenced) who will defend to the last the notion that THEY are free of any inimical influences. Apparently, the price of civilization is to live endlessly cuckolded.

 

[Lord_Cthulhu]

Actually I never had any problem with you in the past. Now either for that matter. Isn't unrequited loathing a bitch? Sorry, there. You'll find someone to hate you back eventually. I know you will. Just be yourself.

Communism and me? As my posts should have made clear, I am a National Socialist. I had uncles who served under General Jozef Turanec. Like Leon DeGrelle, I find the Commies very slightly preferable to the capitalists. If I have a gripe about China it is that the place is only very slightly less capitalist than the West.

You're a proud Nazi?

 

[Xenophon]

You're a proud Nazi?

All fan mail/complaints/enquiries can be sent to me as a PM. This topic at hand was One World Order, remember?

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A thought about the "One World Order" red-herring. In U.S. discussions about business , a "monopoly" can be said to exist when three or fewer companies control 40% or more of a market. The key question is whether their influence is "undue"---does it give any few voices too much authority? Transferring this thinking to politics, for "conspiracy nuts" to be by and large correct does not requite ONE shadowy monolith. A few very heavy hitters has the exact same effect. Pretty clearly, we entered that situation at least a century ago.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

Whatever happened to the Rudolph Steiner crowd that was afraid of spiritual powers pulling strings outside of corporality? Isn't pur fate already written in the stars? Even Jung thought the Aeon would come when the incarnation of Ahriman would show up from behind the scenes.

The notion that we are somehow under the thumb of other beings, and not necessarily benevolent ones, has a lot of traction lately.

It's the opposite case actually, historically people were very sure that here on Earth, the agendas of the divine/demonic forces played out for control through humans, where recently the secular stagnation of spirituality has just dumbed people down and inverted values for gratification and emotional validation. Now more than ever are folk susceptible to outside influences.

Its almost a given that politicians are chameleon-corrupt-cunts in every country, all of them serving the anti-human agenda of greed and power.

I think it's wishful thinking, believing that there's just human intelligences involved in politics, and that if there was a puppetmaster they would be sloppy enough for us to prove it exists. Don't most of the people on this forum act with non-human intelligences / spirits? I think totalitarianism and National Socialism is the result of spiritual hypnotism/indoctrination; violent dehumanizing regiemes that focuses on ideas like countries rather than living breathing people is just evil madness.

Ideas strong enough to convince one human to kill another... that's spiritual warfare, infecting us with racism and patriotism

 

[Xenophon]

Whatever happened to the Rudolph Steiner crowd that was afraid of spiritual powers pulling strings outside of corporality? Isn't pur fate already written in the stars? Even Jung thought the Aeon would come when the incarnation of Ahriman would show up from behind the scenes.

It's the opposite case actually, historically people were very sure that here on Earth, the agendas of the divine/demonic forces played out for control through humans, where recently the secular stagnation of spirituality has just dumbed people down and inverted values for gratification and emotional validation. Now more than ever are folk susceptible to outside influences.

Its almost a given that politicians are chameleon-corrupt-cunts in every country, all of them serving the anti-human agenda of greed and power.

I think it's wishful thinking, believing that there's just human intelligences involved in politics, and that if there was a puppetmaster they would be sloppy enough for us to prove it exists. Don't most of the people on this forum act with non-human intelligences / spirits? I think totalitarianism and National Socialism is the result of spiritual hypnotism/indoctrination; violent dehumanizing regiemes that focuses on ideas like countries rather than living breathing people is just evil madness.

Ideas strong enough to convince one human to kill another... that's spiritual warfare, infecting us with racism and patriotism

Actually, ethical universalism is destroying what little competence is left on this planet.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

This topic at hand was One World Order, remember?

 

[Lord_Cthulhu]

Nazis are sad little creatures.
Their order will never be.

 

[Xenophon]

Nazis are sad little creatures.
Their order will never be.

What is worse? To lose with clear sight and defiance? Or to turn catamite collaborator to creeds that despise one? For that latter is what the West has stooped to.

 

[Lord_Cthulhu]

What is worse? To lose with clear sight and defiance? Or to turn catamite collaborator to creeds that despise one? For that latter is what the West has stooped to.

It will always be worse to be a Nazi.
But keeping on topic of cabals ruling from the shadows, do you think the reports of Nazis shipping shipping supplies down past South America before the end of the war to Antarctica are true?, where they supposedly built a base on the ruins of Thule/Atlantis?

 

[Xenophon]

It will always be worse to be a Nazi.
But keeping on topic of cabals ruling from the shadows, do you think the reports of Nazis shipping shipping supplies down past South America before the end of the war to Antarctica are true?, where they supposedly built a base on the ruins of Thule/Atlantis?

I am not competent to comment on that one. I know Miguel Serrano was smitten with the notion.

 

[8Lou1]

lately i have been taking it as somewhere in some time there was a mistake made. and the grey aliens asked the nazis to help. they had research labs in east europe where they did what they had to do to study the human body. then they thought they figured it, declared covid and now we have this mess.

i also believe that the opening of a box of mummies in egypt/paris by germans and britts was the original reason and that the greys are acting as friends of crowley or at least 1.

there are papers confirming the travel in u-boots to south america. there are also pictures of a man looking a damn lot like hitler (and other known nazis) while living there.

 

[HoldAll]

It will always be worse to be a Nazi.
But keeping on topic of cabals ruling from the shadows, do you think the reports of Nazis shipping shipping supplies down past South America before the end of the war to Antarctica are true?, where they supposedly built a base on the ruins of Thule/Atlantis?

Impossible. The German navy was non-existent near the end of the war (even U-boats had become easy prey for the Allies at that point), any unprotected merchant navy convoys would have been destroyed not long after leaving port. Unless there was any 'secret' technology like flying saucers or huge screens of invisibility involved, then of course all bets would be off... why did the Germans lose the war then, given all that supernatural tech?

Returning to the subject of the One World Order: Thing about evil conspirators is, they're evil. Hence not only betrayals but attempts at the utter destruction and absorption of the ressources of other co-conspirators would be as good as guaranteed. Hierarchies and governments work, after a fashion, because their members can be called to account and (theoretically) are answerable to other bodies like parliaments and authorities like supreme courts. But a handful of sinister conspirators virtuously and harmoniously cooperating for an extended period of time? Get out of here!

 

[8Lou1]

it werent german u-boats. but i have a 'watcher' here ( spiritual sense) so i really cant say more about that or i get hit.

 

[HoldAll]

Impossible. The German navy was non-existent near the end of the war (even U-boats had become easy prey for the Allies at that point), any unprotected merchant navy convoys would have been destroyed not long after leaving port. Unless there was any 'secret' technology like flying saucers or huge screens of invisibility involved, then of course all bets would be off... why did the Germans lose the war then, given all that supernatural tech?

Crap. A screen of invisibility wouldn't work against radar. Philadelphia Experiment-style teleportation then.

Can you imagine the squabbling mess of a conspiracy led by Elon Musk? Centuries-old power-hungry black orders without any schisms? Preposterous.

 

[Lord_Cthulhu]

Idnar

Impossible. The German navy was non-existent near the end of the war (even U-boats had become easy prey for the Allies at that point), any unprotected merchant navy convoys would have been destroyed not long after leaving port. Unless there was any 'secret' technology like flying saucers or huge screens of invisibility involved, then of course all bets would be off... why did the Germans lose the war then, given all that supernatural tech?

Returning to the subject of the One World Order: Thing about evil conspirators is, they're evil. Hence not only betrayals but attempts at the utter destruction and absorption of the ressources of other co-conspirators would be as good as guaranteed. Hierarchies and governments work, after a fashion, because their members can be called to account and (theoretically) are answerable to other bodies like parliaments and authorities like supreme courts. But a handful of sinister conspirators virtuously and harmoniously cooperating for an extended period of time? Get out of here!

I'll take your word for it on the U-boats since I'm no historian and I was paraphrasing a philosopher lol

But yeah I don't think it's a small cabal of conspirators that rule the world from the shadows, it's the whole constellation of unelected assholes in all these NGO's and intelligence agencies that are controlling everything in plain sight and they tell have been telling us over these past few years how they plan to enslave us with "Sustainable Development Goals" and "Environmental Social Governance" yet everyones eyes glaze over because thats boring apparently.
The plan for Total Information Awareness is well underway and smart cities/digital dystopia is fast becoming a reality.

But puts tin foil hat on it tickles my fancy when I see companies/entities naming themselves Blackrock, BlackCube or the many variations thereof.. motherfuckers seem to like Saturn for some reason, and when there's a known trafficking ring that definitely did not end with the suicide of the 300 year old vampire (Epstein).
It makes me wonder what happened to all those victims. Not all of them were married off. I believe some of the people who've gone on record about SRA. Some of them have been vilified over the years and the number of victims for the Epstein/Maxwell network may well run in to quadruple digits according to Whitney Webb.
The US intelligence agencies are awefully afraid to touch that case it in case anyone doesnt have eyes.
Any journalist/writer reporting too many specifics on a certain trafficking network seem to die. 5 by my last count.
If some of the darker stories are true then it's no wonder the world is filled with so much Saturnic symbolism in plain sight.

People we can name like Elon Musk and ol' Billy Boy are likely low underlings in this (for now) imaginary order. They are nepo babies and not as smart as they like to pretend. They just have way more money and more importantly, connections.

 

[Xenophon]

Idnar

I'll take your word for it on the U-boats since I'm no historian and I was paraphrasing a philosopher lol

But yeah I don't think it's a small cabal of conspirators that rule the world from the shadows, it's the whole constellation of unelected assholes in all these NGO's and intelligence agencies that are controlling everything in plain sight and they tell have been telling us over these past few years how they plan to enslave us with "Sustainable Development Goals" and "Environmental Social Governance" yet everyones eyes glaze over because thats boring apparently.
The plan for Total Information Awareness is well underway and smart cities/digital dystopia is fast becoming a reality.

But puts tin foil hat on it tickles my fancy when I see companies/entities naming themselves Blackrock, BlackCube or the many variations thereof.. motherfuckers seem to like Saturn for some reason, and when there's a known trafficking ring that definitely did not end with the suicide of the 300 year old vampire (Epstein).
It makes me wonder what happened to all those victims. Not all of them were married off. I believe some of the people who've gone on record about SRA. Some of them have been vilified over the years and the number of victims for the Epstein/Maxwell network may well run in to quadruple digits according to Whitney Webb.
The US intelligence agencies are awefully afraid to touch that case it in case anyone doesnt have eyes.
Any journalist/writer reporting too many specifics on a certain trafficking network seem to die. 5 by my last count.
If some of the darker stories are true then it's no wonder the world is filled with so much Saturnic symbolism in plain sight.

People we can name like Elon Musk and ol' Billy Boy are likely low underlings in this (for now) imaginary order. They are nepo babies and not as smart as they like to pretend. They just have way more money and more importantly, connections.

What this guy said! (Seriously---you hit all the right buttons.)

 

[HoldAll]

It occurred to me that a real all-powerful conspiracy would be in such perfect control that it would never allow whistleblowers, leaked documents, or leave clues scratched on the walls of Atlantean pyramids or whatever. Their dominion would be absolute. We couldn't even conceive of the way they control us, much less write books about them or concoct spurious conspiracy theories. They would find any notions about secret chip implants or DNA manipulation adorable primitive fantasies because their technology was so advanced that current science would be unable to formulate even the craziest theories about it (not least because the maths for it don't exist yet).

For all intents and purposes, they would be both near-omnipotent and completely opaque to us, and you might just as well start some religion about them, because 1) you have no evidence about their very existence 2) you're completely in the dark as to what they want. Wealth? Gets boring after the first trillion or so. Absolute power? When you've played enough with your meatpuppets, you're probably looking for novel challenges such as playing pingpong with whole galaxies. While various religious world leaders squabble among them about how to best appease God, whether to eat pork (or eat meat at all) or circumcise their male members (bad pun intended), they're probably debating among themselves whether to turn the Sun into a White Dwarf a couple of billion years earlier just to keep things interesting.

It's simply laughable to think that such mysterious beings would make the mistake of revealing their true appearance (reptiloids? seriously? some feeble squishy carbon-based lifeform that happens to look frightening to the poor natives? Come on!) or accidentally show their hand in another way. It's only human to think that the whole universe revolves around our fears, opinions and affairs, and I guess it's somehow empowering to let oneself become convinced that one is 'in the know' somehow but the truth is, we have no real idea whatsoever, not about aliens, not about gods, and not about what is really going on (mostly).

 

[Lord_Cthulhu]

It occurred to me that a real all-powerful conspiracy would be in such perfect control that it would never allow whistleblowers, leaked documents, or leave clues scratched on the walls of Atlantean pyramids or whatever. Their dominion would be absolute. We couldn't even conceive of the way they control us, much less write books about them or concoct spurious conspiracy theories. They would find any notions about secret chip implants or DNA manipulation adorable primitive fantasies because their technology was so advanced that current science would be unable to formulate even the craziest theories about it (not least because the maths for it don't exist yet).

For all intents and purposes, they would be both near-omnipotent and completely opaque to us, and you might just as well start some religion about them, because 1) you have no evidence about their very existence 2) you're completely in the dark as to what they want. Wealth? Gets boring after the first trillion or so. Absolute power? When you've played enough with your meatpuppets, you're probably looking for novel challenges such as playing pingpong with whole galaxies. While various religious world leaders squabble among them about how to best appease God, whether to eat pork (or eat meat at all) or circumcise their male members (bad pun intended), they're probably debating among themselves whether to turn the Sun into a White Dwarf a couple of billion years earlier just to keep things interesting.

It's simply laughable to think that such mysterious beings would make the mistake of revealing their true appearance (reptiloids? seriously? some feeble squishy carbon-based lifeform that happens to look frightening to the poor natives? Come on!) or accidentally show their hand in another way. It's only human to think that the whole universe revolves around our fears, opinions and affairs, and I guess it's somehow empowering to let oneself become convinced that one is 'in the know' somehow but the truth is, we have no real idea whatsoever, not about aliens, not about gods, and not about what is really going on (mostly).

The entire concept of the Illuminati ruling from the shadows is a red herring.
The Heirarchy Enslaving You aren't omnipotent gods.
They are flesh, blood & flawed like the rest of us.
You're missing the forest for the trees with the crazy shit. Theres very real things TPTB are doing and its not very secret.
Like this one asshole Peter Thiel's shitfuckery with Palentir, Carbyne 911 and his hand in American politics via Trumps new handpuppet Vance.
We are sleepwalking into the panopticon THEY are building for us and we will have no one to blame but ourselves.

I "believe" some pretty far out there shit but when it comes to the global public private partnership's worldwide-cuntery, there's a litany of receipts, documents and entire .gov websites outlining this bullshit they call "progress".
sustainable Development Goals For example. Google that and go read them and how they are planned to be implemented and tell me that's more about saving the planet than it is about creating carbon markets and siphoning wealth off every square cm of land on earth

It would be nice if bitcoin wasn't getting coopted and becoming the very thing it was supposedly designed to be against.
There's very real Conspiracies that have very real consequences for all of us and hand waving them all away with the (sad) pessimistic scepticism of modern academia is just well... sad.