Author What are your opinions on Jason's Miller occult material?

[Fausto]

What a comforting, thanks, dude.

 

[OberonFromTheHills]

I 'am surprisingly about 250 lessons into, "Strategic Sorcery" and surprisingly it's been quite a refreshing course. I can honestly say I've strengthened my foundation, getting a new outlook on the basics of Sorcery.
I'd defiantly recommend Strategic Sorcery, and Protection and Reversal Magick for any up and coming Witch, Worlock, or Wizard.

I totally agree. This programm is insane. It must be the only material you need to build your own practice.

I also loved how he refreshed Franz Bardon's energy work and give it a new twist for contemporary practicionners.

Jason Miller is by far my favorite author when it comes to magick. He teaches you how to be a magus, not a superstitious tiktok witch.

 

[aleister dee]

Is there anyone who done sorcery of hekate 1 course taken from this forum (i mean without QnA) if yes then what were your experience?

 

[aphratt0s]

Is there anyone who done sorcery of hekate 1 course taken from this forum (i mean without QnA) if yes then what were your experience?

I’ve taken SOH 1, 2 and 3, and years later it is still the foundation of my practice (alongside meditation and some Helios-centric planetary work). I’ve had success way beyond my expectations with it, both in terms of spiritual experiences and measurable physical-world results. I’ve made my way into a great career, financial success, many positive changes in my life, have been able to deal (usually) with spiritual problems as they arise & help many others. I’ve encountered spirits, cast out spirits, healed people, cursed people, and my success in spellwork is like 5x what it was before taking the system. I’ve also found its methods of mysticism to be deeply enlightening, and it has a lot of great ideas and features that I haven’t found anywhere else.

Jason’s overall practical mindset towards magic is among the best. He cuts through a lot of bullshit that modern occultism is swamped with, and really teaches you how to be an effective competent practitioner.
That said, I don’t believe his work is “the best magic ever, and beats everything out there”. I generally don’t think it’s up to the system as much as it is the individual skill & commitment of the practitioner. Jason gives a very good system that I’d strongly recommend. But there are many other systems that I’m sure are good too, so:
Is it worth the money? I say yes, but in all fairness the money wasn’t too much of an issue for me. If you are not financially in a place to spend $700 on a magic course, don’t. Stick to his books, which are also excellent and can be found here for free.
If you have the money though, and if you’re going to put it towards any one occult thing I seriously would advise spending it on Sorcery of Hekate. It is by far the magnum opus of Jason’s work

Criticisms:
1. Typos and mistakes abound in his work. He’s clearly lazy and scatterbrained, which is fine, many people are, but he could do with hiring someone to look things over. It’s just annoying and unprofessional.
2. Strategic Sorcery is probably the worst with this. I’m talking grammar errors that a 4th grader wouldn’t make. The lessons are packed with cool stuff to experiment with, but you’re basically reading half-baked first drafts and I was honestly pretty pissed that I had spent money on it. It’s free on here so I will say, dig through it. You’ll learn a lot. But you’ll also see what I mean with the horrendous presentation.
3. I didn’t like the Black School. Got it for free off this site, thankfully didn’t spend the money. It’s a whole bunch of stuff that honestly you could figure out just by reading contemporary grimoire authors. Might’ve been cool as a 2 or 3 part arcane audio series. The price point makes you think that it’s a complete system the way SOH is, and honestly, it feels like he cobbled it together just to have a SOH-tier product for the Solomonic crowd.
I’ve also moved away from Christianity entirely since this, for entirely different reasons (relating to the research of a certain Dr. Hillman). But yeah even when I was all about incorporating Christianity into my practice, I found Cyprian very underwhelming compared to SOH.
4. Many of the arcane audios are good but not worth $60 each just to hear him talk for ~2 hours, with ultimately less info than an average book. Would be great as a YouTube channel.
5. He’s currently marketing a “strategic sorcery deep dive” which is a retake of the Strategic Sorcery class, except with Q&As each week. This costs $600, and you still have to buy Strategic Sorcery ($150) if you haven’t already. In his defense, the Q&As of his courses usually are excellent, and this is really where he conveys a lot of the mindset of how to apply magic to irl situations effectively. But come on dude $600 for something that doesn’t even have any new content. I certainly will not be buying it.


Tl;Dr: Sorcery of Hekate is one of the best things out there, but Jason is overall mid, most of his material aside from SOH is sloppy and overpriced. My conclusion is Hekate herself found reason to use this guy to convey her teachings. So give it a try if you have the means, but don’t get too into the Jason fan club

 

[MehenVox]

I’ve taken SOH 1, 2 and 3, and years later it is still the foundation of my practice (alongside meditation and some Helios-centric planetary work). I’ve had success way beyond my expectations with it, both in terms of spiritual experiences and measurable physical-world results. I’ve made my way into a great career, financial success, many positive changes in my life, have been able to deal (usually) with spiritual problems as they arise & help many others. I’ve encountered spirits, cast out spirits, healed people, cursed people, and my success in spellwork is like 5x what it was before taking the system. I’ve also found its methods of mysticism to be deeply enlightening, and it has a lot of great ideas and features that I haven’t found anywhere else.

Jason’s overall practical mindset towards magic is among the best. He cuts through a lot of bullshit that modern occultism is swamped with, and really teaches you how to be an effective competent practitioner.
That said, I don’t believe his work is “the best magic ever, and beats everything out there”. I generally don’t think it’s up to the system as much as it is the individual skill & commitment of the practitioner. Jason gives a very good system that I’d strongly recommend. But there are many other systems that I’m sure are good too, so:
Is it worth the money? I say yes, but in all fairness the money wasn’t too much of an issue for me. If you are not financially in a place to spend $700 on a magic course, don’t. Stick to his books, which are also excellent and can be found here for free.
If you have the money though, and if you’re going to put it towards any one occult thing I seriously would advise spending it on Sorcery of Hekate. It is by far the magnum opus of Jason’s work

Criticisms:
1. Typos and mistakes abound in his work. He’s clearly lazy and scatterbrained, which is fine, many people are, but he could do with hiring someone to look things over. It’s just annoying and unprofessional.
2. Strategic Sorcery is probably the worst with this. I’m talking grammar errors that a 4th grader wouldn’t make. The lessons are packed with cool stuff to experiment with, but you’re basically reading half-baked first drafts and I was honestly pretty pissed that I had spent money on it. It’s free on here so I will say, dig through it. You’ll learn a lot. But you’ll also see what I mean with the horrendous presentation.
3. I didn’t like the Black School. Got it for free off this site, thankfully didn’t spend the money. It’s a whole bunch of stuff that honestly you could figure out just by reading contemporary grimoire authors. Might’ve been cool as a 2 or 3 part arcane audio series. The price point makes you think that it’s a complete system the way SOH is, and honestly, it feels like he cobbled it together just to have a SOH-tier product for the Solomonic crowd.
I’ve also moved away from Christianity entirely since this, for entirely different reasons (relating to the research of a certain Dr. Hillman). But yeah even when I was all about incorporating Christianity into my practice, I found Cyprian very underwhelming compared to SOH.
4. Many of the arcane audios are good but not worth $60 each just to hear him talk for ~2 hours, with ultimately less info than an average book. Would be great as a YouTube channel.
5. He’s currently marketing a “strategic sorcery deep dive” which is a retake of the Strategic Sorcery class, except with Q&As each week. This costs $600, and you still have to buy Strategic Sorcery ($150) if you haven’t already. In his defense, the Q&As of his courses usually are excellent, and this is really where he conveys a lot of the mindset of how to apply magic to irl situations effectively. But come on dude $600 for something that doesn’t even have any new content. I certainly will not be buying it.


Tl;Dr: Sorcery of Hekate is one of the best things out there, but Jason is overall mid, most of his material aside from SOH is sloppy and overpriced. My conclusion is Hekate herself found reason to use this guy to convey her teachings. So give it a try if you have the means, but don’t get too into the Jason fan club

One of the best reviews I've ever seen. Thank you so much for the time that you put to write it.

Would you recommend starting with strategic sorcery or SOH?

 

[aphratt0s]

One of the best reviews I've ever seen. Thank you so much for the time that you put to write it.

Would you recommend starting with strategic sorcery or SOH?

I’d go straight for SOH honestly. Strategic Sorcery is cool, definitely check it out (it’s free on this site) but it’s not a complete system in the way SOH is, and I wouldn’t say it’s even worth the $150. SOH on the other hand is worth more than $700 in my opinion.

 

[darkphoenix]

Recently Jason Miller was whining on Facebook about being accused of gatekeeping and stuff, and Sorita d'Este jumped in and was like, "I LOVE gatekeeping, it's just like my goddess." Talk about revealing your fucking hand.

Feel free to look at my post earlier in this thread about gurus being psychic vampires - and someone earlier in this thread called Sorita d'Este, Jason, and others narcissists. That gatekeeping is exactly why their students are getting pissed off and leaking the courses. I've also leaked an entire Tantra course for the same reason - feel free to have a look in the Library!

Take it from me, these people are narcs. They siphon your energy...I tried the Sorcery of Hekate core mantra and my spirits told me to stop and amend it, because Jason Miller gets energy from anyone who chants the Sorcery of Hekate core mantra. I know this because I had to do cord cuttings with my gurus so that they wouldn't siphon energy from my practice. They DO gatekeep access to the gods. And no Sorita, you're not being like your goddess, fuck off.